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Posted on 7/15/21 at 12:03 pm to Penrod
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Well, Gilbert is certainly more talented than Kole Taylor (who I think is very good), but Terrace Marshall is far less talented than Boutte. Boutte would be a top 10 pick if he came out after THIS year.
Marshall was the #1 WR coming out of HS. He had a season ending leg injury as a SR and battled injuries at LSU. IF he stayed healthy his production would be Top 10 worthy. He was leading the team in TD catches in 2019 before he got hurt. Boutte wins with quickness and Marshall with size and speed.
Both great WRs.
This post was edited on 7/15/21 at 12:24 pm
Posted on 7/15/21 at 12:05 pm to BayouCowboy
I'm going to copy/paste this from an earlier thread.
Shamelessly stolen from an old thread. QB Comparison - Passing Charts
The results. Max Johnson was a below average deep ball QB last year.
Brennan was and probably is still the best passer. That's not to say that he's the best QB once you factor in running ability and intangibles.
And of course. These are numbers from last year. A lot changes in between season, especially with a new coordinator.
eta: Brennan's passing chart.
Shamelessly stolen from an old thread. QB Comparison - Passing Charts
The results. Max Johnson was a below average deep ball QB last year.
Brennan was and probably is still the best passer. That's not to say that he's the best QB once you factor in running ability and intangibles.
And of course. These are numbers from last year. A lot changes in between season, especially with a new coordinator.
eta: Brennan's passing chart.
This post was edited on 7/15/21 at 12:10 pm
Posted on 7/15/21 at 12:09 pm to Penrod
Marshall disappeared for a few games when TJ took over so its a bit of a reach to assume he would have went off with Max under center. I dont like the "weapons" argument too much because they really changed things up for Max and TJ to make things a little easier. They did a wonderful job of this BTW. Many of Johnson's completions to Boutte were in decent space with few contested passes. Great job of working Boutte to holes in the middle of the field and in front of defenders with less of the vertical stuff than Brennan and Marshall. Max wasn't quite ready for that.
Posted on 7/15/21 at 12:13 pm to BayouCowboy
quote:Two different animals.
Both great WRs.
I think Boutte will be drafted higher than Marshall was. Not sure that means much though.
Posted on 7/15/21 at 12:15 pm to Vacherie Saint
I just Don’t love the argument that Johnson didn’t have weapons when fricking Boutte was going the frick off.
Boutte he 300 yards against Ole Miss. it’s not like Johnson was desperate for second targets.
Boutte he 300 yards against Ole Miss. it’s not like Johnson was desperate for second targets.
Posted on 7/15/21 at 12:19 pm to Vacherie Saint
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Two different animals.
Yeah, I said that.
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I think Boutte will be drafted higher than Marshall was. Not sure that means much though.
Possibly. The injury concerns hurt Marshall:
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Round 2, Pick No. 37 (No. 59 overall): Terrace Marshall, Jr., WR, LSUThe Panthers traded back 20 spots from their original pick and still selected a guy they had been connected to at No. 39. Marshall Jr. even received some first round buzz prior to the draft, but fell due to some current and prior medical concerns. He is a tall, fast, technically sound receiver who otherwise had no business being available this late in the draft.
Posted on 7/15/21 at 12:21 pm to SammyTiger
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it’s not like Johnson was desperate for second targets
he really kinda was though, but so was Brennan. Gilbert was a Major factor against Mizzou, but he really wasnt in the first 2 games. It was all Marshall.
Posted on 7/15/21 at 12:22 pm to League Champs
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Why does Max even have sack yardage? Are you admitting that your scrambling QB doesn't seem to avoid the sack?
Every QB has sack yardage (even those who can run pretty well). Max still averaged a few yards per rush, moved the chains and only had 1 less rushing TD than our two RBs had individually.
Brennan has a very good arm and throws the long ball better than Johnson. Johnson has nice touch on his routine throws and can get out of the pocket an move the chains with his feet. They both have some good aspects.
Posted on 7/15/21 at 12:22 pm to SammyTiger
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Boutte he 300 yards against Ole Miss. it’s not like Johnson was desperate for second targets.
With Boutte open most of the game he didn't need any. The OM DC's refusal to adjust scheme to account of Boutte was like watching Pelini run the D vs Miss St.
Posted on 7/15/21 at 12:23 pm to Hold That Tiger 10
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You mean to tell me that I can't blame it on Brennan that Mississippi State put up 600 yards, and scored 500 points against our defense?
Come on man, it was just 473 point
Posted on 7/15/21 at 12:28 pm to KamaCausey_LSU
All that work and still doesn't contain the one metric that matters. winning percentage
Posted on 7/15/21 at 12:29 pm to mdomingue
LSU was terrible again on 3rd down vs State
They had a 4:2 TO margin, including one defensive TD.
Myles couldn’t win a shootout at home against that trash defense, even with extra possessions & a defensive TD
They had a 4:2 TO margin, including one defensive TD.
Myles couldn’t win a shootout at home against that trash defense, even with extra possessions & a defensive TD
Posted on 7/15/21 at 12:33 pm to Lester Earl
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Myles couldn’t win a shootout at home against that trash defense, even with extra possessions & a defensive TD
And yet he will likely be our starter
Posted on 7/15/21 at 12:34 pm to Lester Earl
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LSU was terrible again on 3rd down vs State They had a 4:2 TO margin, including one defensive TD. Myles couldn’t win a shootout at home against that trash defense, even with extra possessions & a defensive TD
C'mon Lester.
The last 2 games LSU had a 9:1 TO ratio and 2 defensive TDs.
A PF put us in FG range vs UF and OM was driving when Corral committed TO #6 to give LSU the win.
Posted on 7/15/21 at 12:38 pm to BayouCowboy
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The last 2 games LSU had a 9:1 TO ratio and 2 defensive TDs
LSU won, right?
Cause that’s what you are supposed to do when you have an uneven TO margin
Posted on 7/15/21 at 12:39 pm to Lester Earl
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LSU was terrible again on 3rd down vs State
They were better than LSU was on 3rd down vs Ole Miss.
5/18
And Miss State was one of the better defenses in the conference. Ole Miss was literally the worst.
You wanna harp on 3rd down percentage like Johnson had a good 3rd down percentages
We had the worst play calling on 3rd and long in the country.
This post was edited on 7/15/21 at 12:44 pm
Posted on 7/15/21 at 12:42 pm to Lester Earl
I bet Max would have won that game! 
Posted on 7/15/21 at 12:46 pm to Lester Earl
if Marco doesnt throw the shoe, we lose to Fla. If TDP can score from the 1, we beat Mizzou. shite, if OM doesn't fumble in LSU territory at the end, we probably lose to them too.
None of this is on the QB's.
None of this is on the QB's.
Posted on 7/15/21 at 12:46 pm to SammyTiger
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like Johnson had a good 3rd down percentages
Again, let’s post where I compare max to Myles
If that’s your take; that’s fine. I’d rather see you do that then trivialize the importance of 3rd down
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