re: Brennan had good stats but his 3rd down conversion rate was terrible.

I’m a grown man, thanks.

I referenced the same thing in a different thread. It’s a clear difference and against tougher defenses

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I can’t wait to watch you snowflakes throw temper tantrums while Brennan lights it up next season.

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You’re dense as frick. If this is something you “can’t wait” for, you’ll be disappointed. I literally JUST SAID I’ll support whoever starts. I simply have a personal favorite right now, and it’s Max. If you don’t think I’d love to watch Brennan light it up then that’s some Tiger Ree shite. Stop playing the “hater” card.

I’m not pitting one against the other-actually you are based on this statement (and I don’t believe it was your intention). You say you can be a fan of both players (which you absolutely can) but here you are saying “I hope my guy beats your guy so I can laugh at you.”

And I rely on stats the same as you do (we’re commenting in a thread about stats). Rushing stats matter more to me. So whats your problem?

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He produced more yards and threw for more TDs than our other QBs period, end of story.

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That's extremely narrow-minded of you.

3rd down conversion rate can be every bit as important for winning as it keeps the defense off the field. It's also why Max Johnson was 2-0 as a starter as opposed to whatever Brennan's record was in 2020.

Having that terrible of a 3rd down conversion is not a good recipe for winning football games. I don't care how many yards you throw for in a losing effort. It's irrelevant. It's also easier to pad stats like that when teams are beating you.

I believe this is a legit concern. How good was LSU in 3rd down conversion in 2019?

I still believe Brennan is worthy of QB1 status, but the 3rd down percentage has to get better or else LSU will continue to lose like they did for most of the season. If he can't improve on it then he needs to benched. It is a valid concern.

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Max looked a hell of a lot better in the small sample sizes

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He looked good but I wouldn’t say he was clearly better than Brennan

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But the ones anointing MB remind me of the posters that were pissed about an OSU Qb transfer in 18...bc LSU already had a full room of QBs that chose LSU first

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The ones anointing Max are no better. Let spring and fall camp play out. I have little doubt that whoever gets the first snap once the season starts is the guy who proves to be the best.

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We need to all take a step back and appreciate the talent in our QB room and let the chips fall where they may when that time comes

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No we have to take sides NOW and dig in. If my guy isn’t the starter I will be mad if he wins and happy if he loses. It’s the LSU fan way!!!

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he looked completely lost at times against terrible teams

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You're right. I had forgotten about that. Gotta hope that was inexperience.

First off you’ve created straw men. I never once blamed or even mentioned the OC yet you claim I have. Unless you’re defending Emery getting a single touch after going for 100+ on 12 carries the previous game? Secondly I didn’t separate Brennan’s actual 3rd down numbers while using the manipulated stats to attack the rest as you’re suggesting. I simply posted Brennan’s true conversion rate because the thread was designed to dishonestly attack him using 3rd running plays to diminish his passing numbers. I haven’t knocked Max Jets one time yet you’re suggesting I have. Lastly recall your negative feelings but it still doesn’t change reality. I’m not telling you who to prefer but nobody can gage personal bias so all I can do is go by the actual numbers and data available.


The fact is in their starts Brennan produced more yards 377ypg to Jets 337ypg and more TDs 3.7 per game to Johnson’s 3 per game. Jets has him in the int category 3-1 but Brennan’s passer rating is 20 points higher (154.7 to 134.8). Brennan’s pace was just a hair beneath Joe Burrow’s yet somehow he’s constantly attacked because the defense couldn’t stop bottom dwelling teams? How do you justify that? I’m a big Max Jets fan, I gave him his nickname, but I want the most productive player on the field. Maybe Max wins the job but as of now Brennan is the better player.

Let me ask you this: if they have a full competition through the spring and fall and Brennan is named the starter, how will you feel?

I’ll tell you that I liked what I saw from Brennan minus one half vs MSU. I think you can’t teach his arm talent and I think he is pretty sharp. But if they have a competition and Max is named the starter, I won’t have any feelings but being happy for Max and confidence in him.

Based on the discussions in this thread, the “Max camp” seems to have just as much animosity towards Brennan as they do confidence in Max which confuses me cu they both showed they are capable and good QBs.

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