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re: Brandon Harris will emerge as the clear starter tomorrow? True or False?

Posted on 4/4/14 at 2:26 pm to
Posted by RedTigerRulz
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Posted on 4/4/14 at 2:26 pm to
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Where did I say that? Or are you responding to OP?


No, I was responding to OP.
Posted by TabledTiger
Venice
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Posted on 4/4/14 at 2:27 pm to
True
Posted by Emiliooo
Member since Jun 2013
5148 posts
Posted on 4/4/14 at 2:29 pm to
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It reminds me of when LSU had Trindon Holliday and people would always say he didn't get that many touches because he was small and the coaches didn't want him to get hurt. So much bullshite, these guys are there to play football no? If they are the best player, let them play, period.

While I agree if they are the best player, let them play. But they have to understand the system, and really study game film under the coaches tutelage. That's why a developmental year is so damn important, so you can train your eye what to spot and read defenses.

I'm going to put my money in AJ. I believe in him, the players believe, so let's get behind him.

I'm not saying that BH won't be great, trust me, he looks like he's got a whole lot of potential, but he's got to grow that potential, and I don't think throwing him out there first game of the year is the best way to do that.
Posted by Bear Is Dead
Monroe
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 4/4/14 at 2:29 pm to
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Maybe Lee was never going to be anything special.

Lee could've been a great college Qb, not necessarily a pro prospect. He really never had a QB coach. Gary was awful with the QB's, they never progressed, and most regressed. By the time Kragthorpe came in, it was too late, not to mention he wasn't 100%.

JL's mechanics and footwork were significantly flawed. If he had a decent developer, he really could've been a solid 3 yr starter. He should've never started in 2008.
Posted by RedTigerRulz
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Posted on 4/4/14 at 2:31 pm to
Wow.....I want BH to be successful too but if the kids not ready then it does more harm than good to throw him out there.
As was stated earlier, JLEE says hi!!!!

Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 4/4/14 at 2:32 pm to
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I'm not saying that BH won't be great, trust me, he looks like he's got a whole lot of potential, but he's got to grow that potential, and I don't think throwing him out there first game of the year is the best way to do that.

In lieu of a kickoff countdown, can we just paste this up at the top of the home screen for the Rant?
Posted by RedTigerRulz
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Posted on 4/4/14 at 2:34 pm to
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In lieu of a kickoff countdown, can we just paste this up at the top of the home screen for the Rant?


Upvote!! Shite seriously.....
Posted by tigabait01
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 4/4/14 at 2:40 pm to
He'll clearly play better then AJ and reports from fall practice will indicate he looks better than AJ, getting reps with 1's, etc.

Will not play a down against Wisconsin and we'll have 3 years of flipping between the two of them.
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 4/4/14 at 2:41 pm to
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He'll clearly play better then AJ and reports from fall practice will indicate he looks better than AJ, getting reps with 1's, etc.

Will not play a down against Wisconsin and we'll have 3 years of flipping between the two of them.

Man. Must suck to be you.
Posted by RedTigerRulz
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Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 4/4/14 at 2:46 pm to
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He'll clearly play better then AJ and reports from fall practice will indicate he looks better than AJ, getting reps with 1's, etc. Will not play a down against Wisconsin and we'll have 3 years of flipping between the two of them.


I'm generally cynical of CLMs actions, but this train of thought makes me feel like a dyed-in-the-wool pumper.
This post was edited on 4/4/14 at 2:47 pm
Posted by CP3LSU25
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Posted on 4/4/14 at 2:57 pm to
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 4/4/14 at 2:58 pm to
false
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
37340 posts
Posted on 4/4/14 at 3:04 pm to
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quote:

They are not throwing him into the Colosseum. These guys have been playing football their whole lives, they want to play football, they go to lsu to play football, What's the big deal?
You should ask this question to Jarrett Lee
Based on how Lee played the rest of his career I would say playing as a redshirt freshman didn't hurt his playing ability. His head coach on the other hand developed an irrational fear of the forward pass that affects him to this day.
Posted by WigSplitta22
The Bottom
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 4/4/14 at 3:07 pm to
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Yet that is the standard for this team. If Harris starts and LSU is not in contention for the SECw headed into the Bama game, then 75% of this board will be calling for AJ to be the starter and wondering why in the hell is was not the starter all along. In essence, you end up ruining Harris, mentally, right out of the gate. The coaches are not going to put him in that position.




I agree with this but it will also be that way if Jennings starts and doesn't live up to expectations of the fans!
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 4/4/14 at 3:09 pm to
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Based on how Lee played the rest of his career I would say playing as a redshirt freshman didn't hurt his playing ability. His head coach on the other hand developed an irrational fear of the forward pass that affects him to this day.

So dumb
Posted by DeltaDoc
The Delta
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 4/4/14 at 3:12 pm to
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I agree with this but it will also be that way if Jennings starts and doesn't live up to expectations of the fans!


I don't disagree. However, IMO there is a difference between throwing a True Frosh to the wolves versus throwing a true soph with game experience.

I think the coaches want Harris to be ready to be the starter...but they do not want him to be the starter at this juncture if you know what I mean.
Posted by OldManRiver
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2005
7567 posts
Posted on 4/4/14 at 3:13 pm to
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He'll clearly play better then AJ and reports from fall practice will indicate he looks better than AJ, getting reps with 1's, etc

I'd like to see these report, b/c every one I've read has said that while Harris flashes ability sometimes, he clearly is behind AJ in managing the offense and making the right decisions.
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
29311 posts
Posted on 4/4/14 at 3:18 pm to
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I'm going to put my money in AJ. I believe in him, the players believe, so let's get behind him.


THIS

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I'm not saying that BH won't be great, trust me, he looks like he's got a whole lot of potential, but he's got to grow that potential, and I don't think throwing him out there first game of the year is the best way to do that.


People need to start looking around at the national landscape of college football. Max Browne (5 star #1 QB class of 2013) came in and Kessler (already there) beat out both he and Wittek and went on to have a respectable season leading them to 10 wins amid the chaos and had respectable stats (2900+ passing 20 TDs). Now they are again in a "battle" and idiots still want Browne over a proven commodity when the only thing he has over him is arm strength.

Same thing at Nebraska, and while Armstrong fared pretty bad being thrown in as a True freshman (wink wink) he did enough in his time to give them a 7-1 record. Now a hotshot redshirt freshman everybody loves (Stanton), who they feel is Tebowesque, is challenging him for starter. The noise out of camp though, is that Armstrong is definitely way ahead of him in terms of running the offense and all the other things that go with being a QB not counting the just physical attributes. As a matter of fact, I've seen it said one time that he is now 3rd string.

And for what the other guy said, no smart coach would have started Winston over Manuel (being that he had ran the offense a few years) and nobody would have started Manziel over Tannehill. That is just stupid talk.
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
26134 posts
Posted on 4/4/14 at 3:21 pm to
False. It appears that for all of Harris' talent, he is so far behind in knowing what to do, that it will not be possible for him to win the job or be the prohibitive favorite in the spring. Apparently, he has enough to learn that he likely could not be ready to be the starter after fall practices, barring a breakthrough.

All said, he works hard and is learning, but it is a tough task to digest an entire college offense in the spring to the point where you are capable of winning the job. Harris should be pretty good, just needs the proper amount of time to get up to speed.
Posted by kennymorgan
Bella Vista, AR
Member since Dec 2005
4747 posts
Posted on 4/4/14 at 3:22 pm to
Threads like this seem to put the fan base in an 'either/or' situation. Fans seem to think they have to choose sides (if fans are 'pro' one of the QBs then they must be 'anti' the other QBS.

Let's just hope both develop and contribute positively for the team. Both are great young men and deserve our support.
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