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Posted on 10/14/20 at 8:58 am to SOL2
Tiger defense have not learned to tackle ! Its gonna get worse this week ! 
Posted on 10/14/20 at 9:01 am to burasjr123
The LSU defense has performed at a historically bad level. They actually looked WORSE against MO. This is no accident, but it is another faux pas by the head coach. Instead of getting someone who can develop a defensive game plan to counter today's offenses, he hires Pelini who appears in over his head.
O has failed at every coordinator hire while at LSU. This is who he is.
O has failed at every coordinator hire while at LSU. This is who he is.
Posted on 10/14/20 at 9:29 am to lsulaw91
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cover 2
This I think is the problem...it looks like the D is only covering 2 people bc every weekend the opponent has about 9 players running around 20 yards from the nearest Tiger defender.
I kid of course, and this isn’t the hottest of takes if it’s even warm but shiiiiiiiit this D looks awful...it looks like backers and secondary are actually running (or trotting) AWAY from the opponent. Not to mention the lack of effort...I haven’t seen one awwww shite rewind the DVR and look at that decleater tackle yet. They’re breaking my heart rn BUT GDT’s!
Posted on 10/14/20 at 9:32 am to Topwater Trout
If that’s the way you interrupted it, sure.
This post was edited on 10/14/20 at 9:36 am
Posted on 10/14/20 at 9:38 am to burasjr123
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He teaches the same system that Pete Carroll teaches,every where Pete Carroll went, bo followed,its mostly cover 2 /Tampa 2 man press with some zone. Coming from Monte kidding.
Difference is that Pete knows cover 2 doesn’t mean you only have to cover 2 receivers and let everyone else run free.
This post was edited on 10/14/20 at 9:40 am
Posted on 10/14/20 at 9:39 am to BayouBengals90
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If that’s the way you interrupted it,
Posted on 10/14/20 at 9:41 am to RussellSheppardsPie
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.it looks like backers and secondary are actually running (or trotting) AWAY from the opponent. Not to mention the lack of effort...I haven’t seen one awwww shite rewind the DVR and look at that decleater tackle yet. They’re breaking my heart rn BUT GDT’s!
Do you even COVID bro? Gotta stay 6 feet away.
Posted on 10/14/20 at 10:04 am to burasjr123
Call our guys the Legion of Zoom .. AKA remote coverage.
Posted on 10/14/20 at 10:11 am to burasjr123
There are systems that work and those that don’t work. Math works. Many civil laws work. In football, Pete carroll’s system by most measures, works.
Teaching these things is another thing entirely. I had a horrible math teacher and I had a very good match teacher. Lights went off when I had good teachers.
Similarly, I have had good coaches and bad coaches. I learned tennis late in life and had different coaches. The difference between the good ones and bad ones is stark. Good coaches are like good teachers. They can literally paint the picture so that the player can see it.
The question I have is whether Pellini is a good teacher. He might be a good motivator but those kinds of coaches often lack the ability to teach.
Teaching these things is another thing entirely. I had a horrible math teacher and I had a very good match teacher. Lights went off when I had good teachers.
Similarly, I have had good coaches and bad coaches. I learned tennis late in life and had different coaches. The difference between the good ones and bad ones is stark. Good coaches are like good teachers. They can literally paint the picture so that the player can see it.
The question I have is whether Pellini is a good teacher. He might be a good motivator but those kinds of coaches often lack the ability to teach.
Posted on 10/14/20 at 10:26 am to burasjr123
Hot Take!
The 4-3 is not an exotic Defensive Scheme....
The 4-3 is not an exotic Defensive Scheme....
Posted on 10/14/20 at 10:43 am to Lizrdman9
When Pelini was here his first time...his numbers look good.
The majority of teams at that time focused on being "running" teams. There was only one passing team (more or less) Florida and once they got beyond his first season, they ate his lunch.... specially in a 3rd downs. This is the reason why a lot of fans wanted him gone.
Pelini just did not have a come back to their adjustments.
LSU also was recruiting to play rushing D mainly, which made our rushing D look good and work.
THE GAME HAS CHANGED, Pelini has not changed....totally out of tune to today's game.
The majority of teams at that time focused on being "running" teams. There was only one passing team (more or less) Florida and once they got beyond his first season, they ate his lunch.... specially in a 3rd downs. This is the reason why a lot of fans wanted him gone.
Pelini just did not have a come back to their adjustments.
LSU also was recruiting to play rushing D mainly, which made our rushing D look good and work.
THE GAME HAS CHANGED, Pelini has not changed....totally out of tune to today's game.
Posted on 10/14/20 at 10:50 am to burasjr123
7 of Nebraska’s 10 worst defensive performances all time were under Pelini led Defenses.
Posted on 10/14/20 at 10:52 am to lsulaw91
quote:That would be considered cover "Not A Damn Thing"
Can’t be! I haven’t seen LSU dbs cover anyone
This post was edited on 10/14/20 at 10:54 am
Posted on 10/14/20 at 10:53 am to rbdallas
He had a #1 defense at Nebraska in the BIG 12.
I think There is a coaching issue more than a scheme issue.
We don’t know our assignment. We’re confused. The scheme doesn’t call for a guy to be left wide open.
I think There is a coaching issue more than a scheme issue.
We don’t know our assignment. We’re confused. The scheme doesn’t call for a guy to be left wide open.
Posted on 10/14/20 at 10:59 am to TheHat7
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7 of Nebraska’s 10 worst defensive performances all time were under Pelini led Defenses.
Prob true for most teams across the nation since the wide open spread offenses took over
Posted on 10/14/20 at 12:13 pm to Topwater Trout
True
Posted on 10/14/20 at 12:49 pm to TheHat7
The issue I have with the Tampa 2 from Monte Kiffin that Bo Pelini prefers is that it aged and did not really adapt well. In its day, it was a killer defense at the NFL level and for colleges that had the athletes to run it. It excelled against what was considered "pro style" offenses at the time with two wideouts running longer developing routes on the outside with a tight end primarily used for blocking and *maybe* an extra slot receiver running an inside curl route or out route. It's your basic Madden 95 defense.
However, offenses have evolved significantly and there are some very common answers these days to the typical Tampa 2. One is a receiving tight end who can get up the seam just off the middle of the defense. Everyone uses receiving tight ends now, and especially here in the SEC they tend to be very, very good. Teams also use a lot of "zone buster" routes with guys running shallower crossing patterns that take them all the way across a defense and open up in holes between the zone defenders. You see these routes added to nearly every passing play in the spread offenses that are everywhere now.
To adapt, defenses moved from the Tampa 2 to some cover 3 or mixes of man under with zone from the safeties, but those are still susceptible to longer developing plays if you don't get pressure on the QB.
Can the Tampa 2 still succeed today? Sure, but not if you just roll it out there and expect offenses to not identify it and run routes that beat it easily. You have to mask your coverages better pre-snap, and you MUST get pressure on the QB. Even the NFL team most famous for succeeding with this defense did so largely because of the pressure applied by their exceptional defensive line. They got more interior pressure on the QB than just about any NFL defense I've seen.
However, offenses have evolved significantly and there are some very common answers these days to the typical Tampa 2. One is a receiving tight end who can get up the seam just off the middle of the defense. Everyone uses receiving tight ends now, and especially here in the SEC they tend to be very, very good. Teams also use a lot of "zone buster" routes with guys running shallower crossing patterns that take them all the way across a defense and open up in holes between the zone defenders. You see these routes added to nearly every passing play in the spread offenses that are everywhere now.
To adapt, defenses moved from the Tampa 2 to some cover 3 or mixes of man under with zone from the safeties, but those are still susceptible to longer developing plays if you don't get pressure on the QB.
Can the Tampa 2 still succeed today? Sure, but not if you just roll it out there and expect offenses to not identify it and run routes that beat it easily. You have to mask your coverages better pre-snap, and you MUST get pressure on the QB. Even the NFL team most famous for succeeding with this defense did so largely because of the pressure applied by their exceptional defensive line. They got more interior pressure on the QB than just about any NFL defense I've seen.
Posted on 10/14/20 at 6:17 pm to BhamTigah
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Gotta stay 6 feet away.
But what’s the excuse for the other 14 feet that they’re giving every eligible receiver?
Posted on 10/14/20 at 6:24 pm to burasjr123
No he doesn’t, Carroll is almost always in the bottom of blitz percentage in the NFL, Pelini has always been a blitz heavy DC.
This post was edited on 10/14/20 at 6:27 pm
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