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re: BK still doesn't realize he left time on clock

Posted on 9/25/23 at 2:18 pm to
Posted by tigersbh
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
12008 posts
Posted on 9/25/23 at 2:18 pm to
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he panicked


Seriously?
Posted by geauxtigers33
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2014
13734 posts
Posted on 9/25/23 at 2:23 pm to
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You don't just ignore the blatant errors you made just b/c the other team didn't capitalize on them.


Capitalize on what? Getting the ball down three with 5 seconds left?

999 times out of 1000 you are winning in this scenario.
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
25830 posts
Posted on 9/25/23 at 2:27 pm to
While watching the game, I thought it was pretty clear he was trying to run it in for a touchdown and then had to change the plan. Not sure why y'all are still agonizing over this.
Posted by geauxtigers33
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2014
13734 posts
Posted on 9/25/23 at 2:28 pm to
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Not sure why y'all are still agonizing over this.


Because LSU is winning and Jayden Daniels is playing well.

There is plenty to complain about with the defense to worry about this.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
82928 posts
Posted on 9/25/23 at 2:29 pm to
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I think it’s worse than you realize.

Kelly doesn’t realize it because he was trying to score in first and 2nd down.

He didn’t realize that he could have run the clock down to zero on first down. And he didn’t realize it on 2nd down either.



we hired a 60 year old guy that has won a shite load of games but never anything of substance for a 10 year $10mil contract, you think he gives a shite?
Posted by geauxtigers33
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2014
13734 posts
Posted on 9/25/23 at 2:32 pm to
Coaches are bad at clock management. I can’t think of a single one that doesn’t make mistakes with it. It’s because coaches don’t watch games like we do they watch film.
Posted by BornAndRaised_LA
Springfield, VA
Member since Oct 2018
5968 posts
Posted on 9/25/23 at 2:33 pm to
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And I stress this again. Kelly is supposed to be that guy...Mr. Detail-oriented. tAlignment. "The adult in the room". etc. The longer he stays here, the longer it becomes clear he's not that guy.


This is incredibly dumb.

Kelly took over a gutted LSU program and immediately rebuilt it to the point where it won the SEC West, beating Bama in the process. His lone loss this year is to the current #4 team. He’s potentially got the best team in the West again.

All teams have issues and even good coaches make mistakes.
Posted by geauxpurple
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2014
14777 posts
Posted on 9/25/23 at 2:42 pm to
He realizes it. I think he was dodging the question. Les Miles would have had to explain away why he let the game go in to overtime.
Posted by novabill
Crossville, TN
Member since Sep 2005
10651 posts
Posted on 9/25/23 at 2:46 pm to
How much time was left on the clock?

I really dont get the issue here, are we upset that he called a TO to talk to his players to make sure everyone was on the same page?
Posted by JamesMaskin
Member since Oct 2012
258 posts
Posted on 9/25/23 at 2:46 pm to
I don’t dislike Kelly, I think he is a great coach. I think it was a blunder and the issue is either he hasn’t realized it, or he is too prideful to admit it.

I would sure hope someone in the damn building isn’t too scared of him to let him know what he should have done.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
451123 posts
Posted on 9/25/23 at 2:47 pm to
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How much time was left on the clock?

I really dont get the issue here, are we upset that he called a TO to talk to his players to make sure everyone was on the same page?

He should have kneeled on 3rd (where Ramos is most comfortable), let the clock go down to 2 seconds, and call the TO.
Posted by IM_4_LSU
Augusta, GA
Member since Mar 2014
9889 posts
Posted on 9/25/23 at 3:04 pm to
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He's been doing this a long time. He knew there was time. I think what was actually going on, which he can't say, was he was hesitant about letting the game be decided by the special teams when he was in position to score a TD. This place would have been apoplectic if LSU had the ball at the 7 yard line with over a minute to go and Kelly decided to play for FG...that was blocked...


Bingo. Me and my buddy said this at the game when it happened. And tbh I don't blame him with how his first game turned out getting the PAT blocked. I think that hesitation 100% was not wanting to leave enough time but also not leave it to the special teams.
Posted by MightyYat
StB Garden District
Member since Jan 2009
25029 posts
Posted on 9/25/23 at 3:26 pm to
This is when they started the play clock after the 2nd down tackle. This is the TO I think everyone has a problem with. If we just line up, let the clock run down, snap it and get to the middle of the field, you can let the clock run down to 3 seconds and call your timeout on 4th down.


I'd love to know his thinking when he called that TO.




Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
59352 posts
Posted on 9/25/23 at 4:00 pm to
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Ramos wasn't going to throw anyone under the bus. That was basically a no comment. What do you think he's going to say... "Yeah man our coaches are idiots for setting me up there."

I can assure you a right footed kicker doesn't want to be kicking from the left college hash from inside the 5 yard line. Not centering the ball was almost worse than the timeout mismanagement.



This is how you know what I'm suggesting is right.

He didn't center the ball because he wasn't trying to kick a FG on 1st and 2nd down. And, he couldn't center it on 3rd down with no timeouts and only 10ish seconds on the clock.

Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
59352 posts
Posted on 9/25/23 at 4:05 pm to
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While watching the game, I thought it was pretty clear he was trying to run it in for a touchdown and then had to change the plan


Kind of. He wanted a TD...and then abandoned the plan probably because he decided he didn't want to take any real risk on 3rd down.

If Kelly were trying to defend his decision, he'd admit all of that. He'd say,

"I didn't want to leave it up to a kick. So, we were going to be very conservative and try and score in the least risky way possible. However, once we got to 3rd down, I decided the risk of the kick was lower than the risk of trying to score by throwing it on 3rd down (plus the risk of Arkansas doing anything with 5 seconds)."

I totally disagree with that logic. But, it least it would be logical.
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