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re: BK still doesn't realize he left time on clock
Posted on 9/25/23 at 1:45 pm to TigerLawProf
Posted on 9/25/23 at 1:45 pm to TigerLawProf
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It worked. LSU won. Move on.
Results oriented thinking? Who can imagine the issues. It's not like we didn't hear these same defenses for Miles and O
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Posted on 9/25/23 at 1:45 pm to NorthshoreTiger76
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One problem I had was the kick was on an angle.
For all we know the kicker asked for it to be there.
Posted on 9/25/23 at 1:48 pm to UpToPar
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I think so too. I think he was trying to score on first and second down before someone came over and told him that we can run the clock down and kick a FG.
Correct. Imaging a scenario where LSU is down by 3 (a scenario where scoring a TD makes sense). He would have played it exactly the same way. He gave up on trying to score a TD between 2nd and 3rd down after he used his last timeout.
It was dumb. And he’s lucky Arkansas didn’t allow/help LSU score on 1st down.
The ability to understand this is important. I think Kelly understands it. The ability to identify these situations is important. Kelly didn’t identify it during the game.
People can argue how important being willing to admit your mistake is. Kelly has shown a few times he’s not willing to do that.
Posted on 9/25/23 at 1:48 pm to JamesMaskin
We could have kneeled, called TO, and kicked the FG with zero time left. I suppose getting a pass into the endzone on 3rd gives us a tiny bit more probability of scoring in case of a missed FG? It seemed like an analytics type of play. I promise you the reporters don't care a bit about this.
Posted on 9/25/23 at 1:49 pm to MightyYat
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Miles left the program in shambles when he was fired.
Miles did not! He left a team loaded with NFL talent that needed the addition of one QB to produce the greatest team in college football history.
Posted on 9/25/23 at 1:49 pm to JamesMaskin
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This post was edited on 9/25/23 at 9:00 pm
Posted on 9/25/23 at 1:49 pm to bbap
Yea he clearly doesn’t or we would be kicking extra points from the same angle.
It’s just another deflection from people that can’t admit it was dumb on multiple levels. In their mind we played that perfect
It’s just another deflection from people that can’t admit it was dumb on multiple levels. In their mind we played that perfect
Posted on 9/25/23 at 1:49 pm to Alt26
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I think what was actually going on, which he can't say, was he was hesitant about letting the game be decided by the special teams when he was in position to score a TD
His 3rd down play call shows that’s not the case.
Posted on 9/25/23 at 1:51 pm to moneyg
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The ability to understand this is important. I think Kelly understands it. The ability to identify these situations is important. Kelly didn’t identify it during the game.
People can argue how important being willing to admit your mistake is. Kelly has shown a few times he’s not willing to do that.
And I stress this again. Kelly is supposed to be that guy...Mr. Detail-oriented. tAlignment. "The adult in the room". etc.
The longer he stays here, the longer it becomes clear he's not that guy.
Posted on 9/25/23 at 1:53 pm to moneyg
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His 3rd down play call shows that’s not the case.
Exactly.
After 2nd down, we were clearly going to kick a FG.
summary of everything after 2nd down:
Posted on 9/25/23 at 1:53 pm to LSUGrad9295
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One problem I had was the kick was on an angle.
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Ramos said on postgame radio that he didn't have a preference.
Ramos wasn't going to throw anyone under the bus. That was basically a no comment. What do you think he's going to say... "Yeah man our coaches are idiots for setting me up there."
I can assure you a right footed kicker doesn't want to be kicking from the left college hash from inside the 5 yard line. Not centering the ball was almost worse than the timeout mismanagement.
This post was edited on 9/25/23 at 1:58 pm
Posted on 9/25/23 at 1:54 pm to SlowFlowPro
Man oh man that is the worst part. BK is suppose to not have these things happen and he got lost like les level lost.
I could at least understand a Dan Lanning or a prime time making this type of game mismanagement. I don’t expect it from the adult that has been doing this for 30 years.
It’s another crack along with subpar staff hires that makes this look like a very low ceiling hire.
I could at least understand a Dan Lanning or a prime time making this type of game mismanagement. I don’t expect it from the adult that has been doing this for 30 years.
It’s another crack along with subpar staff hires that makes this look like a very low ceiling hire.
Posted on 9/25/23 at 1:54 pm to JamesMaskin
quote:because we were out of timeouts and all the time woulda run off. Did some twit ask this? Lol
At his presser, they asked him why didn't he kneel it on 3rd down,
Posted on 9/25/23 at 1:55 pm to The Boat
Yea the rantards screaming it’s perfect management and Ramos wanted this are putting their head in the sand. The kicker isn’t going to roll the head coach under the bus.
Posted on 9/25/23 at 1:56 pm to JamesMaskin
you think he didn’t notice those last 2 plays?
Posted on 9/25/23 at 1:57 pm to LSUGrad9295
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Ramos said on postgame radio that he didn't have a preference.
It matters less from extra point distance
Posted on 9/25/23 at 1:58 pm to Big4SALTbro
quote:I think he got some bad advice from the booth or such, I think he realized it on the last timeout prior to third but by then it was too late. He just had a weird look.
could at least understand a Dan Lanning or a prime time making this type of game mismanagement. I don’t expect it from the adult that has been doing this for 30 years.
Posted on 9/25/23 at 1:58 pm to tigerfoot
The better question was why did he burn his final timeout instead of holding kneeling and milking the clock.
It’s clear either 1. He lost track of his time outs left, that’s a bad answer for me detail
2. He wasn’t aware he could have milked every last second off. This again is bad detail especially considering the circumstances since we had slowly rolled up to this it wasn’t a crazy play or on the road to cause confusion.
3. He wanted to score a TD then changed his mind and panicked a bit. This is the least worse answer he could give.
It’s clear either 1. He lost track of his time outs left, that’s a bad answer for me detail
2. He wasn’t aware he could have milked every last second off. This again is bad detail especially considering the circumstances since we had slowly rolled up to this it wasn’t a crazy play or on the road to cause confusion.
3. He wanted to score a TD then changed his mind and panicked a bit. This is the least worse answer he could give.
This post was edited on 9/25/23 at 1:59 pm
Posted on 9/25/23 at 2:12 pm to Big4SALTbro
quote:it’s kinda the only question in my opinion
The better question was why did he burn his final timeout instead of holding kneeling and milking the clock.
He had two timeouts to think about it.
But I ain’t nearly worried about it
Posted on 9/25/23 at 2:15 pm to tigerfoot
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because we were out of timeouts and all the time woulda run off. Did some twit ask this? Lol
Why were we out of timeouts?
Timeout before first down, run a play
Timeout before second down, run a play
Why did we have for burn our last timeout after second down? Could BK have not gotten his message across clearly in the first two timeouts on how he wanted this to play out?
It’s not rocket science. We didn’t have to burn our last timeout after second down, thus forcing us to throw a pass to the cheerleaders on third down and still leave time on the clock for Arkansas to touch the ball.
This post was edited on 9/25/23 at 2:22 pm
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