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Besides the scoreboard and turnovers, 3rd/4th down conversion will be a key stat Saturday.

Posted on 10/8/24 at 2:50 pm
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 10/8/24 at 2:50 pm
LSU currently has a 3rd down conversion rate of 51.67% or 31 out of 60 attempts. The 4th down conversion rate is 40% or 2 out of 5 attempts. LSU's drive sustaining rate is 50.77% or 33 out of 65 attempts.

Ole Miss is slightly lower than LSU in 3rd down conversion rate at 43.08% or 28 out of 65 but Ole Miss surpasses LSU on 4th down conversions 58.33% or 7 out of 12 attempts. Ole Miss' drive sustaining rate is 45.45% or 35 out of 77 attempts.

As you can see Lane likes to go for it a lot more on 4th down than Kelly. If Ole Miss is around mid field and the down and distance is 3rd and 6-8 yards expect Lane to run it against a defense expecting pass to set up 4th and short.

In CBK's press conference he stressed complementary football. Sustaining drives is the key to complementary football IMO. Converting on 3rd down on offense and getting off the field while on defense.

On third and medium to long, Lane is going to stunt and blitz Nuss. I hope Nuss is ready for it and has his outlet receivers ready because Lane will send them.

Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
18807 posts
Posted on 10/8/24 at 2:52 pm to
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Besides the scoreboard and turnovers, 3rd/4th down conversion will be a key stat Saturday.

I mean you can probably say this about basically every football game.
This post was edited on 10/8/24 at 2:55 pm
Posted by rpg37
Ocean Springs, MS
Member since Sep 2008
54525 posts
Posted on 10/8/24 at 2:53 pm to
UM is the toughest team for our defense because they don't play like tradiitonal teams. Most will punt on 4th and 4 and under everytime and they won't. It haunts them a game or two per season doing that, but the odds favor the decision the bulk of it. Can the LSU defense take advantage of chances and force a couple of TOD? I agree with this post.
Posted by JimTiger72
LA
Member since Jun 2023
18800 posts
Posted on 10/8/24 at 2:55 pm to
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On third and medium to long, Lane is going to stunt and blitz Nuss.


Thank God we have a great O-line & if he’s bringing more than 5, someone will be open
Posted by pitchandcatch27
Huntsville,AL
Member since Jul 2018
4371 posts
Posted on 10/8/24 at 2:55 pm to
So will LSU's defense against a high-powered quick snap offense.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 10/8/24 at 2:56 pm to
quote:

quote:

Besides the scoreboard and turnovers, 3rd/4th down conversion will be a key stat Saturday.


I mean you can probably say this about basically every football game.


I thought about not posting this after I wrote it because it is kind of redundant. But I provided conversion rate info that some people might appreciate so I posted anyway.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 10/8/24 at 2:59 pm to
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Thank God we have a great O-line & if he’s bringing more than 5, someone will be open


Your are right about the OL and I'll add RB blocking assignments. Just need Nuss to recognize the open man and if no one is open throw it away and live for another down.
Posted by jrodLSUke
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Member since Jan 2011
26215 posts
Posted on 10/8/24 at 3:05 pm to
LSU can't let Ole Miss run for easy 1st downs, especially QB scrambles.

Key to Victory: Stop Dart from rushing for easy 1st downs
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
35551 posts
Posted on 10/8/24 at 3:07 pm to
LSU has been pretty good this year on defense in 3rd down conversion percentage (32%...22nd best in the nation). Ole Miss has been even better at 25%...3rd in the nation. LSU has been really good in converting 3rd downs on offense (5th in the nation). LSU offense vs Ole Miss's defense on third down will be a battle of great on great (at least statistically)

To me, LSU's defense isn't good enough to line up and hold Ole Miss under 24 by just playing straight up. But LSU does do two things really well. Sack the QB (5th best in sack %) and force fumbles (avg 2 FF per game...5th best). Ole Miss is going to hit their share of big plays. The hope is that LSU can mitigate them by creating some turnovers via pressure
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
47058 posts
Posted on 10/8/24 at 3:14 pm to
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LSU currently has a 3rd down conversion rate of 51.67% or 31 out of 60 attempts.


That is 11th best in the FBS, tied with Ohio State and 3rd in the SEC behind Arkansas (#8, 52.8%) and Texas (#9, 52.5%)
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 10/8/24 at 3:27 pm to
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Ole Miss is going to hit their share of big plays.


Tre Harris is Ole Miss' most productive offensive player. In 6 games he already has 885 yards with 52 receptions. He averages 17 yards a play. He is Ole Miss' big play guy.

Apparently Tre Harris is banged up and his play might be limited. I think Lane has him declared as doubtful (or will be declared doubtful) but I don't trust Lane Kiffin. The dude plays games with his injury reports.

With Zy Alexander coming back from injury for LSU and Sage back at safety with Spears getting a lot of playing time, LSU's changes of limiting Ole Miss' big plays might be the most opportune time this season.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 10/8/24 at 3:27 pm to
quote:

LSU can't let Ole Miss run for easy 1st downs, especially QB scrambles.

Key to Victory: Stop Dart from rushing for easy 1st downs
Posted by jrodLSUke
Premium
Member since Jan 2011
26215 posts
Posted on 10/8/24 at 3:53 pm to
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Sack the QB (5th best in sack %) and force fumbles (avg 2 FF per game...5th best).

LSU has to do all the things really well, but most importantly is getting off the field on 3rd down. Last year, Dart ran for three first downs on drives LSU could have had stops, and all three drives ended with TDs.

Don't give them the easy 1st downs, make them earn it with low percentage plays.
Posted by lsudave1
Baton Metairie
Member since Jan 2005
12240 posts
Posted on 10/8/24 at 3:56 pm to
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avg 2 FF per game


This is an extremely shocking stat I didn’t realize this. We need to actually start recovering fumbles when we force them lol.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 10/9/24 at 8:01 am to
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This is an extremely shocking stat I didn’t realize this.


And frustrating. But if the LSU D keeps knocking the ball out its going to eventually bounce their way.
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