re: BCS Champion should be # 1

I hear you dude and I agree. That was tinged with sarcasm to make a point. But truly, the national champ, whoever it is year to year is subjected to a place where they cannot defend anything more than their preseason ranking.

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totally wrong.
I started this thread as to view possibilities...
nothing to do with LSU.....

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Do you really believe that your pro-LSU bias (which I am certainly not criticizing) has nothing to do with this. It's just an amazing coincidence? Sorry - I don't buy it.

automatically starting the defending champs as

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#1 would only invalidate an already imperfect system.
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and an undefeated previous years champ left out doesn't?

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The system is not perfect, everyone agrees to that. Why should a defending champ have a mandated advantage over other teams, espscially in college football where EVERY YEAR every team is signifantly different than the previous year's team.

Look at baseball this year, Oregon State was the 2 time defending champs they were left out of the field of 64, and the experts argued it really could have gone either way with them based on what they did in 2008. Again, Florida missed the NCAA tourney and were 2 time champs, why should they have gotten in based on previous year's work?

This is relevant because the NCAA selection process is the only thing comparable to D1-A football that decides team's fates off the field.

This thread is ruining my post count. It's rivaling my contributions to the Tebow.... thread of last year.

I quit

Agreeded....

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Polls shouldn't be out until week 6

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I like the fact that the BCS standings are released in october... first pols should be 1 week prior to the BCS polls being released

And, NO, i do not think the returning champ must get #1 ranking. It's not the same team as last year. You lose alot of seniors

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You could say if 50 times, but you are still dead wrong. LSU is the defending national champs until another team wins the crown. Georgia is currently #1, but they have won nothing. If you want to say Georgia is defending their pre-season #1 ranking, then so be it, but it still has nothing to do with LSU's standing as defending national champ.

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Each year, there is only one
DEFENDING NATIONAL CHAMPION.
That team, is the winner of the BCS National Championship Game.
This year is LSU.
They will continue to be the DEFENDING NATIONAL CHAMPION until such date as the BCS NC Game is played and a new winner is determined, then "the winner" will become The Champion and the following year's DEFENDING NATIONAL CHAMPION

Heavy Weight Football Champs

This is an interesting site based on this premise. It has Missouri as the current "champ."

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Example: OSU beats USC and goes undefeated. LSU loses 1 game. OSU is undefeated, USC and LSU have 1 loss, everyone else has 2 losses or more. LSU, in my opinion, will not go to Miami. And based on the current perception of the schedules, I don't think LSU would deserve to go. USC has a tougher schedule than LSU this year, as of now,

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LSU vs. #1 Georgia > USC vs. #2 OSU

LSU vs. #5 Florida > USC vs. #15 Arizona St.

LSU vs. #10 Auburn > USC vs. #21 Oregon

LSU vs. #24 Alabama > USC vs. Oregon St./ND/????

based on your "as of now" theory, (which i took as preseason rankings) LSU has a much tougher schedule. Dont know where your coming from.

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LSU vs. #1 Georgia > USC vs. #2 OSU

LSU vs. #5 Florida > USC vs. #15 Arizona St.

LSU vs. #10 Auburn > USC vs. #21 Oregon

LSU vs. #24 Alabama > USC vs. Oregon St./ND/????

based on your "as of now" theory, (which i took as preseason rankings) LSU has a much tougher schedule. Dont know where your coming from.

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I honestly didn't research the rankings enough. I read a post on here that showed USC's preseason SOS ranking was higher than LSU's, and with our weak OOC schedule I didn't really doubt it. You could be right, although I'm sure there are different "polls" with different rankings. But the analogy still made the point I was trying to make.

BTW, here's the SEC and PAC-10 SOS rankings that I got off of a post. He had a link too, but it is not active anymore (comes up "page cannot be displayed").

SEC
Georgia = 3rd in nation
Arkansas = 4th
Vanderbilt = 6th
'Bama = 7th
Tennessee = 9th
Mississippi = 13th
Florida = 15th
Auburn = 16th
Kentucky = 19th
South Carolina = 22nd
LSU = 26th
Mississippi State = 41st


PAC 10
UCLA = 1st
Washington = 2
USC = 8
Oregon St = 5
Stanford = 11
California = 14
Oregon. = 21
Arizona St = 25
Arizona = 20
Wash St. = 28

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I understand the argument about the deserving or lack thereof part against the autmatic notion. I also understand the extreme unlikliness(non-issue) of the previous champ going undefeated and being left out of this years game.

But allowing the auto#1 to take place will not have any bearing on those more deserving as long as they do there part and not lose. The same can't be said of #7. Things have to fall correctly. I think the ending the year on top should keep you from being at others mercy.

Further, what makes it anything more than a self correcting issue if the auto #1 is in fact undeserving? What proves him undeserving- a loss- the deserving move up. Problem solved.

The deserving/not deserving corrects itself in the auto #1 scenario.

Give a better argument against it than that.

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It is my opinion that if 5 teams finish the season undefeated, the 2 with the toughest schedules will play for the championship, even if 1 of them was ranked #15 in the preseason polls. So what does it matter who was ranked where when the season started?