re: Bball roster making me wonder

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Right on time , there he is. There are 8 players currently signed, assuming all of the foreign players are cleared and show up. A couple of injuries like the past two years and they are down to six layers so hopefully the potential fith year players are elgible.

Two years ago they lost starters Jalen Reed and Tyrell Ward. Lasst year Reed and Dedan Thomas.

The only key player Wade lost for extended time is Adam Miller and he wasn't left with six players like he would be if he does not add any more before the season.

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The manner in which Wade is constructing this roster is certainly unorthodox. I don't think anyone is (or should be) disputing that fact. But we also live in an unusual time for college basketball. One where eligibility rules are ambiguous (until maybe next year); programs, even great programs, routinely overhaul their rosters from year to year; and for the first time ever the marketplace for being a college basketball player is more lucrative than just about every pro league besides the NBA.

That said, it seems foolish to think Wade is just "flying by the seat of his pants" in hopes that everything will work out. That's NEVER been is MO. So even though we, as the public, are largely in the dark about what is going on that doesn't mean Wade and his staff are. In fact, I'd be willing to bet it is quite the opposite.

As to the former coach, yes, key injuries can alter a season. For any coach/program. But you don't get the benefit of the doubt that is the sole cause for the woeful lack of success when you've never been good. MM was horrible with a roster than should have been at least better than the worst team in the SEC in year one. In year two his great accomplishment was finishing 1 game over .500 and backdooring into the NIT because another SEC program (Ole Miss) turned down their invite. Wade, on the other hand, has coached 6 seasons of major conf. basketball. He's led his team to the NCAA Tournament in 5 of those seasons (counting 2020 as LSU would have been in had the tournament been played). That doesn't mean Wade is the greatest HC in college basketball (he isn't). But it does mean he's earned the benefit of the doubt that he would be able to overcome adversity better than the prior to HC who seemingly needed everything to be perfect just to be a .500 team.

Either way, the four year waste of time that was the McMahon era is thankfully over. If nothing else, that should give LSU fans some sense of optimism for better days because even if Wade fails to live up to expectations...it can't be worse than the last 4 years. And I don't think LSU could have hired anyone with a better track record than Wade. If you think otherwise, just look at UNC and Kentucky. Both are two of the most historic brands in the sport. Both had to settle for coaches WAY down their preferred list despite having every advantage in the marketplace.

If you (in a general sense) want Wade to fail simply to satisfy some internal sense of "righteousness", there is nothing I or anyone else can say to change your position. However, I'm just happy that as an LSU basketball fan I can, for the first time in 4 years, have reason to believe the program will at least be able to compete in the top portion of the SEC...even if I don't know what the roster looks like on July 15th

I look at the lsusports.net men's basketball roster. I don't have a lot of faith some of the others will be allowed.

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Problem is, clowns like you consider "accomplish" meaning a few more wins. And that in itself is the tragedy of the programs issues in the past, and now present. I sure don't hold Mc's wins as a success, he wasnt very successful in wins.....but the program was cleaned out and cleaned up

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Wade. Derangement. Syndrome.

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but the program was cleaned out and cleaned up

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And in the process the world of college basketball and college sports in general changed to where Wade's malfeasance, paying players, became not only "legal", but necessary. So the "clean up" accomplished NOTHING other than LSU basketball fans having to endure watching the worst program in the league for four years.

LSU got rid of a guy to avoid getting into trouble for paying players...at the same time they entered a world where they had to take measures to raise money to...pay players!

McMahon's tenure literally fixed nothing. In fact, all it did was drag interest and the market for the product of LSU basketball to decade's low depths that the program is now having to dig out of. In other words, it was a total waste of time and money.

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Hey a-hole where were you the last 4 years with your “standards”?

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Depends on which standards you're referring to. Winning? Absolutely sucked and standards not even close.
Ethics and program under NCAA microscope? Standards met easily from the WW debacle of low character

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Ethics and program under NCAA microscope? Standards met easily from the WW debacle of low character

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Wade. Derangement. Syndrome.

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He forgets that people saw his post where he said he was upset because McMahon couldn’t cheat.

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Ah interesting. I didn’t see that. I’m convinced it is just an act for him at this point.

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Ethics and program under NCAA microscope?

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I don't know if this line of thinking is just an act. Or indicative of someone totally devoid of critical thinking skills.

To the extent Wade and the LSU program were under an "NCAA microscope" is was due to allegations of Wade paying players as an inducement to play for LSU. Soon thereafter, and increasingly more so today there is NO need or concern for that "microscope". Today, when players consider playing for any school the first topic of conversation is not how ornate the locker room is. It's how much are you willing to pay me to play. So what risk is LSU avoiding by not having a guy whose only "crime" was paying players at a time when paying players is "legal" and mandatory?

"What about rehiring Wade?"
"Absolutely not! We can't trust him. He broke NCAA rules by paying players!"

"Ok, what about the next guy on our list?"
"I don't know. Can he raise the money necessary to pay great players?"

Does anyone realize how utterly absurd that thought process is? Let's not consider one coach because he broke NCAA rules by paying players...at a time where LSU (and ever major college program) needs a coach who is good at raising money to pay players

Thanks for proving my point beyond all doubt.