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re: Batting: Sanchez's Fault or Lack of Talent?

Posted on 6/9/12 at 6:52 pm to
Posted by tigerswin03
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Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 6/9/12 at 6:52 pm to
i agree we can do better as far as a hitting coach goes,but for some people to say that this is a bad team or that pm is a bad coach is just plain stupid.
Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
34203 posts
Posted on 6/9/12 at 6:55 pm to
There are only 2 of PM's Notre Dame buddies left on the staff.

Posted by TigahRag
Sorting Out OT BS Since 2005
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 6/9/12 at 7:10 pm to
Where did I say we "sucked" as a team ?? We struggle at the plate and at times suck offensively .. If you don't see that at the games, I can't help you ..
This post was edited on 6/9/12 at 7:12 pm
Posted by TigahRag
Sorting Out OT BS Since 2005
Member since May 2005
132775 posts
Posted on 6/9/12 at 7:39 pm to
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there is no better college baseball program in the country than LSU. we rolled through Regionals, and we're 1 game away from CWS. Take a prozac, drama queen.


It might be time for you to leave the 1990s .. We've won one title in the last 11 seasons .. The rest of college baseball has caught us ..
Posted by mlminbtr
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2003
682 posts
Posted on 6/9/12 at 7:39 pm to
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It's both and both are Javi's fault.


Perfectly said!
Posted by damnstrongfan
St. George, Louisiana
Member since Dec 2009
2400 posts
Posted on 6/9/12 at 7:50 pm to
Nothing more aggrevating than taking call strike three with runners in scoring position.
This post was edited on 6/9/12 at 7:51 pm
Posted by deuce985
Member since Feb 2008
27660 posts
Posted on 6/9/12 at 8:04 pm to
Both. Both are Javi's fault too.

Fire Javi
Posted by TigerDog83
Member since Oct 2005
8748 posts
Posted on 6/9/12 at 8:57 pm to
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Those are pretty noticeable numbers.


I think you make some good points. How many times has LSU been unable to make adjustments in game this year? We face soft pitching outside and yet the team still tries to pull the ball all day long. That falls on coaching, plain and simple. Even in high school when we got pitched a certain way the coaches would instruct players to make adjustments. In 2009 we had a solid lineup who could make adjustments and go the other way when necessary. Right now it just seems like we have a bunch of guys who want to be dead pull hitters and we sit back and keep hacking away instead of going with pitches and trying to make the right situational plays. It is really frustrating because we have guys in this lineup who have produced in the past (Hanover, Nola) and guys who obviously have raw hitting talent (Katz, Rhymes, Dozar as shown at times in the past, Edward, Ross). It's fair to criticize why the coaches aren't coaching the players up to hit with good approaches and play smart baseball. I hope that the bats can carry us tomorrow because the improvements the pitching staff has made have carried this team to a ton of wins with what has been at times a very limited offense.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
62054 posts
Posted on 6/9/12 at 9:08 pm to
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I would fire my Mom if she weren't producing. Dead weight on the payroll is a drag on the bottom line.



You could make a pretty damn strong argument that, offensively, this team has outperformed its talent level this year.

That's not to say that Sanchez is a great coach and that LSU couldn't upgrade. But, there really is nothing to point to that would justify his firing this year.
This post was edited on 6/9/12 at 9:10 pm
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20543 posts
Posted on 6/9/12 at 9:09 pm to
Did you go back and apologize to that guy for incinuating he was stupid for saying Gausman would start the 12th inning today?
Posted by gotygers
west St.Tammany
Member since Sep 2007
3016 posts
Posted on 6/9/12 at 9:29 pm to
I predicted that on a previous post. It was a logical move by PM.
This post was edited on 6/9/12 at 9:30 pm
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20543 posts
Posted on 6/9/12 at 9:32 pm to
Was that you? You should have bumped that thread this morning.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
62054 posts
Posted on 6/9/12 at 9:33 pm to
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Did you go back and apologize to that guy for incinuating he was stupid for saying Gausman would start the 12th inning today?



IMO, it was a bad decision because it involved too much risk.

In the end, it worked out because the first game only lasted one inning.
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
30511 posts
Posted on 6/9/12 at 9:54 pm to
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For a team returning essentially 6 of 8 position players, I didn't expect to see the noticeable decline we've seen this year

Last year outside of Mahtook the team hit .293. This year the team is hitting .288.
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Runs are down by 1.2 per game (from 6.92 to 5.70).
Runs per game this year is 6.17
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We've left 481 on base compared to 406 last years, struck out 39 more times and hit into 28 more double plays
Why did you stop mentioning the 8 extra games when it comes to these numbers? According to your total numbers....LOB this year is 7.51 per game, last year 7.25. Strikeouts per game is 5.84 this year and 5.92 last year. The double plays are definitely noticeable, but the difference is still only about .25 per game. I would like to see our fly ball % this year compared to last year but I don't know of anywhere that would have it. I would think that % is lower this year, meaning more ground balls and double plays....but I don't have the numbers so its just a guess.
Posted by rxbtjxnes
big br
Member since Mar 2004
896 posts
Posted on 6/9/12 at 10:05 pm to
Sanchez has only had one person to teach him after he left high school and that person is Paul M, we need a hitting coach not a fluckie that PM has trained
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
37993 posts
Posted on 6/9/12 at 10:16 pm to
A hire on the level of Dunn in the field of hitting would be huge.
Posted by Stevo
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2004
12347 posts
Posted on 6/9/12 at 10:25 pm to
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It might be time for you to leave the 1990s .. We've won one title in the last 11 seasons .. The rest of college baseball has caught us ..


You are a quick study. It's a good thing that college baseball has more parity. What happened in the 90's will never be duplicated.
Posted by Joe Joe Joe
Givin' Him the Business
Member since Oct 2007
5746 posts
Posted on 6/9/12 at 11:08 pm to
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Last year outside of Mahtook the team hit .293. This year the team is hitting .288.

Well, if you are going to isolate the best hitter on the team and remove his average, you have to take away Rhymes and his .439 average. If you did that, this year's team is hitting .270. That would put us tied for 179th in the nation. That's just awful.
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Runs per game this year is 6.17

Yeah, I messed up the numbers when I was pulling them off the spreadsheet.
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Why did you stop mentioning the 8 extra games when it comes to these numbers?

Pretty sure everyone is aware we've played more games this year than last. Nonetheless, if you look at those isolated numbers, there isn't much more support your argument.

In those 8 games, we are averaging less than 5 runs a game (a full run below our season average), left 50 men on base (meaning we are still 30 more men left on base compared to last year), averaging less than 8 hits a game and struck out 49 times (meaning we were actually below last year's strike out total following the regular season).

And while runs/game is down only slightly, we have scored 5 runs or less in 56% of our games this season (36 of 64) compared to only 36% of our games last season (20 of 56)
This post was edited on 6/9/12 at 11:14 pm
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
30511 posts
Posted on 6/9/12 at 11:26 pm to
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Well, if you are going to isolate the best hitter on the team and remove his average, you have to take away Rhymes and his .439 average. If you did that, this year's team is hitting .270. That would put us tied for 179th in the nation. That's just awful

Because your comment was to my reply about losing Mahtook. You said there was still a big decline with the returning players, but it isn't far off at all from what they did last year.
Posted by sunnydaze
Member since Jan 2010
32534 posts
Posted on 6/9/12 at 11:33 pm to
Whole lotta stupid ITT
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