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Posted on 6/9/12 at 3:58 pm to TigahRag
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Not at all .. Our pitching carried us this season .. How can you say that ? Especially when it's your thread ?
LSU ranked 5th in ERA in the SEC this year.
Posted on 6/9/12 at 3:59 pm to Stevo
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Care to quote our HR production in Game 1 of Supers? See how that works
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Stevo
1/4 of one 12 inning game for your sample size versus 8 postseason games.
Sample sizes in terms of your comparison make your response weak sauce and you know it.
Posted on 6/9/12 at 3:59 pm to moneyg
[quote]LSU ranked 5th in ERA in the SEC this year.[/quote
It's not fair when you use facts to counter hurt feelings following a loss.
It's not fair when you use facts to counter hurt feelings following a loss.
Posted on 6/9/12 at 4:00 pm to GFunk
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Just because they did away with a title doesn't mean someone isn't in charge of recruiting. Agree or disagree?
They all play a role in recruiting and since Grewe left Mainieri said no one would get an offer without him seeing them play himself, essentially acting as a "crosschecker" in professional scouting. That came from Mainieri in an interview when changes were made last Summer. Maybe you have a direct line to him, but thats all I have to go on.
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do you or do you not think he bears any responsibility for our ineptitude.
Sure, everyone takes some blame. Do you think he gets any of the credit for the production, which can only be considered solid relative to the talent on hand? I already know this answer
quote:Everything begins and ends with Mainieri. Sanchez isn't the greatest assistant coach on the planet. There are better coaches out there. There are also better coaches than Mainieri, Dunn, Miles, Chavis, Kragthorpe, Jones, etc, etc, etc....but the fact that better coaches exist isn't reason to fire any of the above. When we start getting production that isn't up to the par with the talent we have there will be a change, but that hasn't happened to date.
In short, who in your view is accountable within this program since you are so adamantly defensive of Sanchez?
Posted on 6/9/12 at 4:02 pm to GFunk
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Sample sizes in terms of your comparison make your response weak sauce and you know it.
we'd also have to compare your 8 post season games with how many regular season games? Sample size, remember?
Posted on 6/9/12 at 4:03 pm to GFunk
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1/4 of one 12 inning game for your sample size versus 8 postseason games.
8 games is way too small of a sample size.
Posted on 6/9/12 at 4:07 pm to Cajun Revolution
LSU's not been a good hitting team under CPM
Posted on 6/9/12 at 4:07 pm to moneyg
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8 games is way too small of a sample size.
GFunk is correct to use it to argue that we've not hit well in the post season.But it's just wrong to argue that we suck at hitting for the whole season when stats clearly suggest otherwise. It's amazing how many rantards let hurt feelings cloud their rationale.
Posted on 6/9/12 at 4:08 pm to GFunk
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8 postseason games
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Sample sizes
Posted on 6/9/12 at 4:09 pm to moneyg
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Batting: Sanchez's Fault or Lack of Talent?
I'm not sure whos more to blame but it may be about time to go in a different direction from Javi.
I've not really been sold on this team yet and the last 3 or so games have got me a bit concerned that we just don't have enough offense to win it all. We're struggling with Oregon State and Stony Brook....IF we make it to Omaha, the teams are only going to get better. Right now we just don't seem to have a knack for clutch hitting.
Posted on 6/9/12 at 4:09 pm to Stevo
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Sample sizes in terms of your comparison make your response weak sauce and you know it. we'd also have to compare your 8 post season games with how many regular season games? Sample size, remember?
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Stevo
I asked you about the postseason statistics as they compared to regular season. You drew a bad example that I pointed out, and your response is to compare how we did in the regular season again...
Not exactly circular reasoning, but you are going in circles. If you think no problems exist we can cut the bullshite you're pulling and just agree to disagree
Posted on 6/9/12 at 4:12 pm to Cajun Revolution
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Batting: Sanchez's Fault or Lack of Talent?
Are you serious? lack of talent?
Instead of criticizing our players and coaches, why dont you give some credit to the opposing pitcher who pitched one hell of a game. He did a great job of getting our players to ground out. He only had 1 K. You and everyone blaming LSU are dumb,
Posted on 6/9/12 at 4:12 pm to GFunk
we agree post season performance is poor. While I'd always prefer to be at top of SEC in hitting, you can't argue that 4th overall is horrible, sucks, etc.
Posted on 6/9/12 at 4:12 pm to Stevo
quote:And it's amazing how many purple and gold glasses wearing motherfrickers let their overly sanctimonious LSU bullshite cloud theirs. Go ahead and quote a stat to counter that one. There's about 3 or 4 of you boxtards that exist in this world, and every last one of you seem to have found this website.
It's amazing how many rantards let hurt feelings cloud their rationale.
Posted on 6/9/12 at 4:12 pm to MOT
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MOT
You say CPM is to blame. I ultimately agree.
But we need to improve. Your solution is to recruit better and make sure Mainieri looks at every kid we offer. Mmmk.
So you're telling me that Sanchez has validated his presence in your mind? You really, honestly think that we should retain him, MOT?
Posted on 6/9/12 at 4:13 pm to Squeeze
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our 2nd best hitter has struck out 50+ times and wasn't even drafted
WOW!!!!
Posted on 6/9/12 at 4:13 pm to MOT
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When we start getting production that isn't up to the par with the talent we have there will be a change, but that hasn't happened to date.
To be honest, I'm more concerned with our inability to squeeze and maximize every bit of talent out of whatever players we have. We're on the same page in terms of the lack of talent. But this season sure has left much to be desired in terms of certain players' approaches, plate discipline, consistency and production. At the end of the day, all this falls on Mainieri, but the perception of Sanchez's competency and ability to do the job is not good.
Sometimes, perception is worse than actual reality. To counter that point, I'd imagine many people thought Grewe, having already been a head coach, was more than qualified to be the pitching coach here even if he hadn't even been so previously.
The similarities between the Grewe situation and the Sanchez situation are pretty glaring, in my opinion, and I think most frustration amongst those who would like a change is because we have seen the positive influence Dunn has had. So, perhaps there are better coaches out there as you suggest. But when you look at what Dunn has done in really maximizing the talent there, I don't think it's asking too much that we have a solid hitting team that can consistently work counts, have good at-bats and make adjustments. I'd simply disagree with your measurement that production is sufficient given the talent and, thus, no change is needed. It pains me to see us "settling" rather than trying to redefine what is adequate and acceptable production.
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LSU's not been a good hitting team under CPM
Both the 2008 and 2009 teams were pretty ridiculous hitting teams. 2009 hit all the way through the order.
This post was edited on 6/9/12 at 4:18 pm
Posted on 6/9/12 at 4:16 pm to Cajun Revolution
We didnt win the SEC and get a top national seed with poor hitting and terrible coaches. Do you expect our players to never struggle occasionally against good pitching?
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