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re: Baseball Talk, what’s your starting lineup?

Posted on 1/23/23 at 11:24 am to
Posted by Meauxjeaux
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Posted on 1/23/23 at 11:24 am to
If it's me, I'm starting like this to see how Guidry develops at MIF. Gonna rotate Kling and Dugas in with the corner OFers.

1. Morgan, 1B
2. Crews, CF
3. White, 3B
4. Skenes, DH
5. Thompson, SS
6. Pearson, RF
7. Stevenson, LF
8. Milazzo, C
9. Guidry, 2B
Posted by geauxtigers33
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Posted on 1/23/23 at 11:38 am to
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I hope Milazzo bats .300 but he has not proven he can bat .200 in his first 3 years


I don’t think he can do it but I believe if Milazzo is batting at least .250 he will be in the lineup 2 out of 3 games on the weekend with Neal catching the other and some midweek games especially the weeks when there are two midweek games.

If Milazzo doesn’t improve I can see Neal taking over the full time catcher role by the middle of SEC play if not sooner.
Posted by LSUgrad88
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Posted on 1/23/23 at 12:38 pm to
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You are correct but Neal a who bats lefty with power and is on par with Milazzo defensively


You are already saying Neal, who has never played one inning of college baseball is “on par with Milazzo defensively”. Are you serious?? I mean I would love it if you were right, but this is ridiculously premature.
This post was edited on 1/23/23 at 12:39 pm
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
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Posted on 1/23/23 at 12:42 pm to
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You are already saying Neal, who has never played one inning of college baseball is “on par with Milazzo defensively”. Are you serious?? I mean I would love it if you were right, but this is ridiculously premature.


You have to understand the type of people you are dealing with. Milazzo is already toast to a good number of them. He shouldn't be wearing an LSU uniform to some. Those type of people will just spout out random shite, and actually believe their own made up BS. Nothing you ever do, say, nor anything that happens on the field will change that. Milazzo could end up hitting .300 and they wouldn't change their tune, they would just disappear until he goes into a slump.
Posted by Safety Blitz
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Posted on 1/23/23 at 12:42 pm to
I’m excited about Neal and Kling, just want to see these guys play before I pencil them in.

As I really this thread I’m getting more excited about our pitching than I should be,
Posted by Hot Carl
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Posted on 1/23/23 at 1:23 pm to
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I'm well aware, so pitch Sunday so he can bat Friday and Saturday.


You also don’t want him running the bases the day before he throws. Going Friday night, being available to PH late-inning Saturday, then DHing Sunday is the best way to use him.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 1/23/23 at 1:27 pm to
Several of these older players are going to be polarizing for fans. Milazzo probably being 1 on the list, along with Dugas, Beloso, Blake money, Jobert, and Jordan Thompson to an extent.

The turnover happened with the pitching much faster, but the talent has been ramped up on the hitting side and all of these guys will get pushed very hard for playing time if they don’t perform.
Posted by geauxtigers33
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Posted on 1/23/23 at 1:34 pm to
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Jordan Thompson to an extent.


Jordan Thompson is the new Kramer.

A lot of people have already decided he isn’t good and even if he has a great year those same people will show up to criticize every error and slight slump.
Posted by ProjectP2294
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Posted on 1/23/23 at 1:40 pm to
I did my extremely amateurish projections for Milazzo.

I projected for 87 plate appearances.

.233/.325/.291 1 HR, 1 2B, 11 BB, 23 K, 6 SH

His K rate went way down and BB rate went way up year over year, but also in a lot less playing time. He should conceivably be healthier this year too. But I used his career K% and a slightly-lower-than-last year BB% for these numbers.
Posted by geauxtigers33
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Posted on 1/23/23 at 1:45 pm to
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233/.325/.291 1 HR, 1 2B, 11 BB, 23 K, 6 SH


Going off of the catcher situation the last two years I could definitely live with this from him knowing how great the rest of the lineup may be this year.

With that said, I want to see what Neal can do. If he can have much better numbers with a slight step back on defense then I am all for him at least splitting time with Milazzo behind the plate.
This post was edited on 1/23/23 at 1:46 pm
Posted by ProjectP2294
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Posted on 1/23/23 at 1:53 pm to
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With that said, I want to see what Neal can do.


Those projections are for what I think would be less than 50% of the catcher PAs, or less than 50% of the 8/9 spot PAs. So even what I put assumes a time share with Neal and Travinski, at least.

One thing I could see happening from a playing time pattern would be that if Milazzo starts, he may get pinch hit for in his 3rd plate appearance anyway. With the numbers we have at catcher, getting Travinski and Jones extra ABs starting in the 5th inning of a game could be useful.
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Posted on 1/23/23 at 1:55 pm to
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I did my extremely amateurish projections for Milazzo.

I projected for 87 plate appearances.

.233/.325/.291 1 HR, 1 2B, 11 BB, 23 K, 6 SH

His K rate went way down and BB rate went way up year over year, but also in a lot less playing time. He should conceivably be healthier this year too. But I used his career K% and a slightly-lower-than-last year BB% for these numbers.


Assuming with only 87 PA this season as a projection you either expect him to lose the catching job at some point or be a very heavy rotation with Travinski/Neal as the season goes along? Or maybe you think he doesnt totally lose the job but becomes a late inning catching replacement in a lot of scenarios?

Assuming 3.75 PA per game or which might be pretty low even for someone at the very bottom of this lineup, that's like 23 games or so of him hitting.
This post was edited on 1/23/23 at 1:56 pm
Posted by ProjectP2294
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Posted on 1/23/23 at 1:59 pm to
Heavy rotation, being at the bottom of the order, and being subbed out early in games that warrant it.

I think they are really going to pick their spots with him. I think he'll be the friday catcher when receiving is a little more important and then late inning after that for the weekend.
Posted by Beau0153
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Posted on 1/23/23 at 2:15 pm to
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You have to understand the type of people you are dealing with. Milazzo is already toast to a good number of them. He shouldn't be wearing an LSU uniform to some. Those type of people will just spout out random shite, and actually believe their own made up BS. Nothing you ever do, say, nor anything that happens on the field will change that. Milazzo could end up hitting .300 and they wouldn't change their tune, they would just disappear until he goes into a slump.


I be the first to say I was wrong if Milazzo hits.300 and I really wish he would but I don't see it happening. Neal has just as good of pop times and arm as Milazzo, Milazzo has more experience in college receiving but it's not like Neal has been catching junk pitchers at IMG. Neal wasn't projected to be first round pick because he can't play defense
Posted by ProjectP2294
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Posted on 1/23/23 at 2:17 pm to
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Neal wasn't projected to be first round pick because he can't play defense


Neal wasn't projected to be a first round pick.
Posted by ccarrone0313
Member since Jul 2021
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Posted on 1/23/23 at 2:22 pm to
HS catchers projected to go in round 1 usually do. That’s a premium position in the draft. He wasn’t projected to go that high.
Posted by Beau0153
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Posted on 1/23/23 at 2:26 pm to
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Neal wasn't projected to be a first round pick.


Excuse me he was ranked number 71 overall and number 2 catcher.

He will be the starting catcher by SEC play
Posted by Rtowntiger
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 1/23/23 at 2:27 pm to
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Neal wasn't projected to be a first-round pick.


He was at times, he was consistently projected first 2 rounds. #2 catcher out of Highschool whose scouting report compliments his defense.

I don't think he will be much of a drop-off, if any, at catcher. Especially as he gets more experience. I expect him to take over has the main catcher toward the end of the season.

"Re-classified from the 2023 class, very athletic and polished defensive catcher, smooth LH'd swing, youngest 2021 PG All-American"
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Posted on 1/23/23 at 2:44 pm to
What most people forget about catcher is it's tough to come in as a true freshman and command that position with all the pitchers. Not to say it cant be done as obviously freshmen catchers have started before, but when you have vets like Milazzo and Travinski to a much lesser extent with him...it's a lot to catch up on and build chemistry with all these pitchers. Now Neal isnt behind catching the newcomers we have at pitcher but understand Milazzo and Travinski have caught our returning pitchers for 1-2 maybe even 3 years already and are very familar with them and that the biggest learning curve for a guy like Neal and it doesnt sometimes just click by game 1 of freshman year (or even season 1 entirely).

I think Neal is going to play a lot but they are going to have to fully trust him with all the pitchers who we will pitch regularly before he takes anything over permanently.
This post was edited on 1/23/23 at 2:46 pm
Posted by DRock88
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 1/23/23 at 2:56 pm to
I'm just not as fixated on Neal being a freshman. He's not a normal freshman. He wasn't supposed to make it to campus. He's obviously not the super freshman that Crews was, but Neal, Kling, and even Shores are special talents that don't normally get to campus. They're ahead of the curve and will develop quicker.

I certainly agree that Neal will have to prove himself, but that goes both ways. Milazzo also has to prove himself. Milazzo has to be 100% healthy. We haven't really seen a 100% healthy Travinski either. And Jones, by all accounts, can hit the cover off the ball. It will be interesting, to say the least.
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