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re: Baseball Rankings 5/7 - BA #3, Collegiate #4, Coaches Poll #4, RPI #6
Posted on 5/7/12 at 2:19 pm to AstroTiger
Posted on 5/7/12 at 2:19 pm to AstroTiger
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Where did you find this info?
Here's another site I have used. Goes all the way back to 1990.
LINK
This post was edited on 5/7/12 at 2:20 pm
Posted on 5/7/12 at 2:27 pm to AstroTiger
This post was edited on 2/25/13 at 4:21 pm
Posted on 5/7/12 at 2:47 pm to BoobieWatcher
So we have more wins and less losses than Oregon, yet they have the same rpi as us? That doesn't make any sense, considering we play harder competition.
Posted on 5/7/12 at 2:49 pm to BoobieWatcher
Per baseball america chat with aaron fitt:
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Jeff (My Basement in DC): Aaron- Let this be the be all, end all of NO RESPECT! questions.
Since the Super Regional format was implemented, LSU has finished the regular season in the top 8 of the RPI a total of 9 times, but has only been awarded with a national seed 4 times (44%). LSU has never been awarded a national seed without a top 5 (FIVE) RPI.
For everyone else, a top 8 RPI has translated into a national seed 75% of the time. NCAA love child Texas has finished in the RPI top 8 6 times and earned 5 national seeds (83%).
Texas has been a national seed without a Top 8 RPI 3 times (as low as 18). Similar story for Rice - 5 times in the RPI top 8, all national seeds (100%), and twice awarded a national seed without a top 8 RPI (also as low as 18). Fullerton…4 times in the RPI top 8, all national seeds (100%), and 3 times awarded a national seed without a top 8 RPI (as low as 20).
Remember, LSU was left out of the tournament completely last year with an RPI of 23. So what does LSU need to do down the stretch to avoid the bias of the selection committee and land a national seed? Undefeated then lots of prayers?
Aaron Fitt: I like the way you prefaced that question, Jeff -- nicely played. I'd have to go back and look, but I'm willing to bet the times LSU finished in the top 8 but did not get a national seed, there were multiple SEC teams ahead of it in the conference standings.
Playing in the SEC is a double-edged sword: you get a huge RPI advantage because you're playing all teams that build gaudy winning percentages in the nonconference schedule and so the strong RPIs compound over the course of conference play. That means it's easier to build a strong RPI as an SEC team, and there are typically going to be more teams in the SEC with very high RPIs than in, say, the Big 12 or Pac-12. But if you're No. 8 in the RPI but have the fourth-best RPI in your own league and the fifth-best conference record, that doesn't look as impressive.
I'm very glad the committee doesn't just give national seeds to the top eight teams in the RPI -- how a team finishes in its conference matters, and it should. So with all that said, I don't think it really matters where LSU finishes in the RPI this year. If it wins the SEC West (and it's up by four games, so it will win the SEC West), it will be a national seed.
Posted on 5/7/12 at 2:49 pm to cashflippa
They've actually played a lot more Top 100 RPI teams than we have.
I still think we are better, but I am biased.
I still think we are better, but I am biased.
Posted on 5/7/12 at 3:14 pm to lsurulz1515
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I'm very glad the committee doesn't just give national seeds to the top eight teams in the RPI -- how a team finishes in its conference matters, and it should. So with all that said, I don't think it really matters where LSU finishes in the RPI this year. If it wins the SEC West (and it's up by four games, so it will win the SEC West), it will be a national seed.
We got that in the BAG!
Posted on 5/7/12 at 3:17 pm to LSU=Champions
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We got that in the BAG!
He's giving our resume a lot more respect than most rantards! I haven't seen anyone on this board say that if we win the west we get a national seed. I think I may like this Aaron Fitt character
Posted on 5/7/12 at 3:19 pm to lsurulz1515
Aaron Fitt >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kendall Rodgers
Posted on 5/7/12 at 3:24 pm to LSU=Champions
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They've actually played a lot more Top 100 RPI teams than we have.
Yep quite a lot. Appy State, Tulane and SLU are the only non-conference teams we've played with a top 100 RPI.
Posted on 5/7/12 at 3:24 pm to lsurulz1515
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Jeff (My Basement in DC): Aaron- Let this be the be all, end all of NO RESPECT! questions.
Since the Super Regional format was implemented, LSU has finished the regular season in the top 8 of the RPI a total of 9 times, but has only been awarded with a national seed 4 times (44%). LSU has never been awarded a national seed without a top 5 (FIVE) RPI.
For everyone else, a top 8 RPI has translated into a national seed 75% of the time. NCAA love child Texas has finished in the RPI top 8 6 times and earned 5 national seeds (83%).
Texas has been a national seed without a Top 8 RPI 3 times (as low as 18). Similar story for Rice - 5 times in the RPI top 8, all national seeds (100%), and twice awarded a national seed without a top 8 RPI (also as low as 18). Fullerton…4 times in the RPI top 8, all national seeds (100%), and 3 times awarded a national seed without a top 8 RPI (as low as 20).
Remember, LSU was left out of the tournament completely last year with an RPI of 23. So what does LSU need to do down the stretch to avoid the bias of the selection committee and land a national seed? Undefeated then lots of prayers?
Mr. Gambini, That is a lucid, intelligent, well thought-out objection....... OVERRULED.
Posted on 5/7/12 at 3:25 pm to lsurulz1515
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He's giving our resume a lot more respect than most rantards! I haven't seen anyone on this board say that if we win the west we get a national seed. I think I may like this Aaron Fitt character
Well it depends on how we win the West. Technically we could only 1 of our final 6 games and win the West. Doubt that gets us a national seed.
Posted on 5/7/12 at 3:44 pm to TigerCub
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Doubt that gets us a national seed.
I agree. If we win 1 of our final 6, then we might have to win the tourney to get a national seed
Posted on 5/7/12 at 4:00 pm to LSU=Champions
guess they were waiting for that NCBWA poll to come out
Posted on 5/7/12 at 4:23 pm to lsurulz1515
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He's giving our resume a lot more respect than most rantards! I haven't seen anyone on this board say that if we win the west we get a national seed. I think I may like this Aaron Fitt character
Read more of my posts. Said it nearly two weeks ago. Champions and I argued that very point a little.
Posted on 5/7/12 at 5:23 pm to iknowmorethanyou
Contained in my boy Kendall Rodger's chat today:
I'm not even going to give my input on this gem.
Instead, I'm going to leave a more positive excerpt from his chat.
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Comment From Trey
Is there a chance Ole Miss could miss the NCAA tourney? I'm worried we'll end up like LSU last year. Very similar resumes.
Trey,
Go 1-2 in their final two series, and the Rebels would be 13-17 in the SEC. That'd be close, real close. And good call on LSU. But unlike LSU last season, the Rebels actually played a pretty decent non-conference schedule.
I'm not even going to give my input on this gem.
Instead, I'm going to leave a more positive excerpt from his chat.
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Comment From Rod
KR.....As of today, give me 2 or 3 favorites to win the CWS this year.
Rod,
Florida, LSU, South Carolina.
Posted on 5/7/12 at 6:53 pm to AstroTiger
Two questions. Has any conference ever received four National bids? Second, we appear to be in great shape to earn one. Is it normally pretty straight forward in the bids to the rankings? If LSU is ranked in the top five in every poll, it makes NO sense they would not receive one.
Posted on 5/7/12 at 7:32 pm to AstroTiger
When do they do their projections again?
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