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re: Bama's Early Enrollees Potentially Get Screwed by Saban's Timing

Posted on 1/11/24 at 6:08 pm to
Posted by FATBOY TIGER
Valhalla
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 1/11/24 at 6:08 pm to
Not if they attend class the first day, which was the 10th.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56249 posts
Posted on 1/11/24 at 6:29 pm to
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Dude has impacted the lives of thousands of kids I don’t think he really deserves much scrutiny about his decision making and character
im not nearly as anti Saban as most LSU fans, but in the surface that is a shitty move
Posted by TNoon
Member since Nov 2020
2443 posts
Posted on 1/11/24 at 8:24 pm to
Business is business
Posted by TNoon
Member since Nov 2020
2443 posts
Posted on 1/11/24 at 8:25 pm to
Diesel and ladies all I did
Posted by Nutriaitch
Montegut
Member since Apr 2008
7510 posts
Posted on 1/11/24 at 8:31 pm to
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2. If requested, a recruit/commit must be automatically released from their letter of intent if (1) the coach leaves, AND (2) they haven't attended classes yet


you actually have this backwards.

any student athlete already enrolled has 30 days from the coach leaving to enter the portal.
whether he attended classes or not is not a criteria. Just “enrollment”.

if they have not yet enrolled, then the university must release them to be eligible for the portal.

Posted by Curtis Lowe
Member since Dec 2019
1262 posts
Posted on 1/11/24 at 9:00 pm to
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you actually have this backwards.

any student athlete already enrolled has 30 days from the coach leaving to enter the portal.
whether he attended classes or not is not a criteria. Just “enrollment”.

if they have not yet enrolled, then the university must release them to be eligible for the portal.

if not yet enrolled the university must release same from their LOI and the player can then reopen their recruiting process.

the rest of your post I agree with 100%.

Posted by Kramerica Industries
Austin, Texas
Member since Feb 2015
1077 posts
Posted on 1/11/24 at 9:02 pm to
Why you should commit to a school not a coach.
Posted by bstaceyau19
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2022
334 posts
Posted on 1/11/24 at 9:05 pm to
What's he supposed to do? Coach until he dies to get around this problem? Do a lame duck year where all the recruits know he will not be there and won't know who will? There is no good solution to this.
Posted by jrbjr
New Orleans
Member since Oct 2006
243 posts
Posted on 1/11/24 at 9:11 pm to
Probably not all, but I bet that several of those recruits asked him if he was going to retire. I wonder what they were told.
Posted by Celery
Nuevo York
Member since Nov 2010
11086 posts
Posted on 1/11/24 at 9:12 pm to
I think there would be academic roadblocks to transferring in the middle of a semester. Maybe in the summer, but by then seems too late to use the coach leaving clause. Kids got screwed.
Posted by Ready2Geaux
Member since Sep 2023
226 posts
Posted on 1/11/24 at 10:05 pm to
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They will have to ask Bama to release them voluntarily. If Bama doesn't consent, the EEs would have to take an appeal to the NLI committee or stick around for the spring semester and THEN transfer out.

They still have multiple avenues to get out if they want, but because of Saban's timing they will have to jump through hoops.


Dood! In what dark universe does Alabama NOT make the transfers easy on these FB players? After all the glory brought to them by Saban (jk) and the 30-day transfer allowance rule after a HC leaves?

Stop creating drama where there is none -- those that wanna leave can leave

Post about what DLine doods we can get in February
This post was edited on 1/11/24 at 10:08 pm
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
51903 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 1:06 am to
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Yeah I’m sure Saban was trying to screw over all of the kids that he just signed



While I’m sure it was previously on its mind, I wouldn’t be surprised at all if it was just some bullshite of the day, a worthless kid walking in, demanding more NIL money, that made him quit.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56249 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 7:12 am to
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What's he supposed to do? Coach until he dies to get around this problem? Do a lame duck year where all the recruits know he will not be there and won't know who will? There is no good solution to this.
announce the day after the playoff. Next
Posted by Lizardman2
Member since Jan 2024
436 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 7:14 am to
He is the "FACE" of the program for which they want to attend and play ball. Regardless of him being the head coach, Alabama was, is, and always will be Alabama.

Posted by Nutriaitch
Montegut
Member since Apr 2008
7510 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 9:28 am to
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if not yet enrolled the university must release same from their LOI and the player can then reopen their recruiting process.

the rest of your post I agree with 100%.


correct, meaning if not yet enrolled, they have to get a release from the school to be eligible to reopen recruiting.

those already enrolled are free and clear for 30 days to enter the portal and the school cannot stop them.
Posted by LATECHgradLSUfan
LA
Member since Sep 2007
3264 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 9:30 am to
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1. Alabama has at least 16 early enrollees this recruiting cycle

2. If requested, a recruit/commit must be automatically released from their letter of intent if (1) the coach leaves, AND (2) they haven't attended classes yet

3. Alabama's spring semester started yesterday, January 10th

Because Saban waited to announce his retirement until after classes started, the early enrollees are no longer entitled to an automatic release from their NLI. They will have to ask Bama to release them voluntarily. If Bama doesn't consent, the EEs would have to take an appeal to the NLI committee or stick around for the spring semester and THEN transfer out.

They still have multiple avenues to get out if they want, but because of Saban's timing they will have to jump through hoops.


bad look there.
Posted by Swampcat
Member since Dec 2003
10250 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 9:31 am to
At first I read that as bama’s early paroles.
Posted by Brazos
Member since Oct 2013
20360 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 10:02 am to
They are groupies because they wanted to play for the best coach ever and pretty much guaranteed to win a championship?
Posted by sunnydaze
Member since Jan 2010
29995 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 10:25 am to
We probably get sayin had he retired earlier
Posted by Curtis Lowe
Member since Dec 2019
1262 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 10:03 pm to
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Not if they attend class the first day, which was the 10th.
You are conflating NLI, which becomes moot once a player enrolls and is placed on scholarship, and being enrolled and having access to the transfer portal with the school having no say in the player's decision.

The NLI binds the player to attend the school and binds the school to provide a scholarship to the player.

If not enrolled the player needs to request a release from the NLI in order to reopen their recruiting process, which once requested the school must grant due to the coach leaving.

If enrolled and having been placed on scholarship, the player can enter the portal at any time during the 30 day period which the school has no say in the player's decision.
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