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Posted on 10/22/12 at 8:22 am to ATLTiger
I do,
do you find Northwestern much different than Towson ?
his readings were better, his release was faster....
nevertheless, now ONE YEAR LATER, he should have been coached better.
Ex: TOWSOn: 2012
Passing Cmp-Att-Int Yds TD Long Sack
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Zach Mettenberger 15-26-0 238 2 53 4
do you find Northwestern much different than Towson ?
his readings were better, his release was faster....
nevertheless, now ONE YEAR LATER, he should have been coached better.
Ex: TOWSOn: 2012
Passing Cmp-Att-Int Yds TD Long Sack
-------------------------------------------------
Zach Mettenberger 15-26-0 238 2 53 4
Posted on 10/22/12 at 8:49 am to JJ27
Well, if he's doing this
His receivers and line were better.
quote:then I don't think
16.7+ yards per completion
quote:is too much to ask
a TD every 6 completions
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do you find Northwestern much different than Towson ? his readings were better, his release was faster....
His receivers and line were better.
Posted on 10/22/12 at 9:22 am to Wayne Campbell
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His receivers and line were better.
I give you that.. but
a)we are also 1 year later.
b)I count 3 secs and the ball is still in his hands often
c) his accuracy looks worse, we are needing heroic catches for completions.
I do not blame him, I blame coaching....they recruited him and are training him.
either we suck at development and/or we suck at evaluating QB prospects, or both.
since 2008, very little QB play, yes we have won, but that position has been weak.
Posted on 10/22/12 at 9:37 am to LSUGrad9295
Good analysis, but tl/dr except highlighted text.
Posted on 10/22/12 at 9:38 am to LSUGrad9295
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the limited choices offered to him by the plays being called.
the choices being offered to him are limited only by the staffs confidence in his ability to execute them.
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I think it is what it is for now...and I think he will be much better next season.
this.
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The people who thought he was going to throw for over 3000 yards and 30 TD's were delusional to begin with and they will never be happy either way.
this....bigtime.
Posted on 10/22/12 at 9:40 am to rbdallas
BINGO! Developement of QB's at LSU has been abysmal for years. IT seems we are where 4 and 5 star recruits come to die! (Russell Shepard). Mett's play hasn't been good by most standards, it has been average. Maybe that is all we need to stay in the game, but why not try to get more than average play to shore up your options to the run game? Defensive coaching with Chief is obviously stellar, but the offensive side, QB in particular, hasn't gotten results for years.
Posted on 10/22/12 at 9:41 am to rbdallas
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a)we are also 1 year later.
With a different O-line and receivers
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b)I count 3 secs and the ball is still in his hands often
Because the receivers aren't getting open. Also, in the past two weeks LSU has played two of the best pass rushing defenses in the country, and been sacked a grand total of two times.
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c) his accuracy looks worse, we are needing heroic catches for completions.
If the receivers can't get separation while running their routes, they have to lay out for passes. Mettenberger has put plenty of balls right on the money, only to have them dropped. And he's limiting interceptions, which is a byproduct of accuracy.
Mettenberger isn't playing great, but he's not playing as poorly as a lot of people here are trying to represent. QB has not been a strength of LSU since 2006.
Posted on 10/22/12 at 9:46 am to dgnx6
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that could be attributed to stud not calling for crazy substitutions. I mean crowton killed us with that shite.
the truth...crowton was like a kid in a candy store. so many choices...so little time.
Posted on 10/22/12 at 9:52 am to JJ27
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JJ27
If he could connect on the long ball then that negates the 16.67ypr average. I'm assuming you don't know how stats work.
Posted on 10/22/12 at 9:54 am to LSUGrad9295
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This would be a solid first year QB in the SEC.
I hate how some posters keep saying Mett is a first-year QB and inexperienced. True, he's a first-year staerter, but he's a redshirt junior!! He was in UGA's program for a year, had a full year of JUCO, and is now in his second year in our program. That's plenty of experience.
If a QB is legit, he can be effective immediately, and Mett isn't.
Posted on 10/22/12 at 10:24 am to Palm Beach Tiger
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I think Mett has had his confidence shaken.
This is something that really concerns me. We don't want him to have his confidence totally destroyed and turn into a basket case like Lee did after the 2008 season. Perhaps that is what Miles is tring to prevent, but I don't think he's really doing Mett any favors. Alan Risher said several times on the post-game radio show that the coaching staff is not putting Mett in the best position to succeed due to their play-calling. You have to think he knows what he's talkiing about since he used to be a QB at LSU.
Something else that was brought up on the post-game show is the lack of game-time snaps our backup QB is getting due to us not being able to put any of our opponents away. Not only are we in trouble if Mett goes down, but it doesn't bode well for the future.
This post was edited on 10/22/12 at 10:49 am
Posted on 10/22/12 at 4:21 pm to LouisianaLonghorn
Hopefully we aren't in a situation where we are counting on mett to win the game. The game plan has to be run run run.... occasionally throw..
Posted on 10/22/12 at 4:34 pm to PSU2LSU
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Hopefully we aren't in a situation where we are counting on mett to win the game. The game plan has to be run run run.... occasionally throw..
Until we come up against a team that we can't run against...and that team is coming to BR on 11/3. Mett will have to step it up if we hope to win, and the coaches are going to have to do a better job calling the plays.
Posted on 10/22/12 at 5:16 pm to JJ27
If he has improved you would need a microscope to see it.
Posted on 10/22/12 at 5:47 pm to cajunintn
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BINGO! Developement of QB's at LSU has been abysmal for years. IT seems we are where 4 and 5 star recruits come to die! (Russell Shepard).
What exactly do you think RS should be doing? If he stood out at practice he would be playing more. He is very limited in what he brings to the field and maybe his lack of progression is of his own doing. Plenty of impact freshmen are seeing the field and making plays, look at Hill at RB. RS wouldn't be playing QB for a top 15 team that wanted to throw the ball, either. I like the guy and wish him well, but I see more out of Mett improvement-wise playing a very difficult position against top opponents than the 5 star apparition in YR 4 at WR.
Posted on 10/22/12 at 5:52 pm to LSUGrad9295
I am a huge fan, but i think your deluding yourself w/these observations. Mett is not the guy we hoped for, nor does he show any signs of being that guy.
That's the observation I have.
That's the observation I have.
Posted on 10/22/12 at 7:26 pm to lake chuck fan
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I am a huge fan, but i think your deluding yourself w/these observations. Mett is not the guy we hoped for, nor does he show any signs of being that guy.
That's the observation I have.
We've been through 3 quarterbacks, 2.5 OC's and the number 1 recruit in the country 4 years ago wastes away on the bench. I first thought the problem was the OC and Crowton, then I thought it was Jefferson's fault. I now think offensive problems lie with the one constant in the equation and not the variables since results haven't changed.
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