re: Athlon Coach Rankings - Ed O at 81

Would ed Orgeron ever be in the top 5 candidates at bama?
Would ohio state ever hire ed orgeron?
Would FSU ever hire ed orgeron?


If your answer to these is no then why the frick would you be ok with LSU hiring him?

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After what he did at USC and LSU taking over a 4-7 team at USC and a 4-5 team at LSU

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He did not take over a 4-7 USC or 4-5 LSU. (LSU was 2-2, I think USC was 3-2)This is arbitrarily selecting a stretch of games over 2 season to make the records sound worse. It is dishonest and telling that you keep doing it.

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Who has more affect on a program?

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Ooops, gotta go. Thank god I'm notm driving. Mark your place in this thread and come back later or tomorrow. I'm off tomorrow so I'll be back way later tonight or in th morning.

can't wait to slap y0u around somemore. Youer minions are welcome to participate also. Look forward to it ??!@!!

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can't wait to slap y0u around somemore

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He knows me you idiot he knows what you're saying isn't true. I don't know if you know this but ppl can actually read the thread if they want to and see that you're lying.

Pot kettle and all that jazz

I've answered that plenty not wasting anymore words on a two faced piece of garbage like you again.

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That shite is shot to hell. It was a double secret behind the scenes agreement that even the people behind the scenes had no idea about. But, I guess you can continue to use it since it was all informal and even people like Alleva were not aware of it. ha ha ha !!!

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Let me talk slowly so that you understand:

Administration "believed," as the article states, Ed would retain Aranda, not because Ed wanted to retain Aranda, they believed for 1 of 3 reasons:

1) They could influence the decision making process itself and force Ed to keep the best coach on his staff

2) They flat out KNEW Ed would because he had no other choice.

3) They actually struck out on every Tier 1 head coach available, Fisher, Herman, etc., and believed the only way to salvage things going forward without going down to a Fedora-type hire, was to keep Aranda. The only way to keep Aranda...force it on a hire like Ed.

Hiring Ed Ogeron was not the plan, or a good idea. There is no tangible reason for any Tier 1 school to hire Ed Ogeron as a coach. None. No viable metric. No proof. Nothing.

Most Real Head Coaches with demonstrated success, again those who run an actual program effectively, have a brand and style of football they play and coach to. They prefer certain types of coaches that align to their overall strategy. When they move schools, I'd guess 90% of the time, possibly more, they bring in their own OC and DC. This happens extremely frequently. Hiring an outside head coach made the possibility of losing Aranda rise dramatically, just based purely on probability.

Alleva and Co. have decided that the future of LSU is more important resting on Aranda's shoulders and it was more important to keep him, than it was to risk losing him from a Head Coaching change. Hence Ogeron. Aranda proceeded to get a raise, extension, and new title. These are all important facts that tell a particular story of what happened.

This was specifically not an Ed Ogeron "decision." Either Administration ordered him to extend Aranda, or Ed knew that was his only SELL for the position because he has no brand of football. No strategy except "Keep Aranda, Hire a Productive OC." That's his gameplan.

Notice that all of the benefits you lay out are personnel changes. It has nothing to do with his intelligence, his game planning, his coaching ability, his knack for winning games, any kind of "scheme," his ability to outcoach coaches, his history, nothing of the sort. You don't seem to care about the game of football, just about coaching changes.

Notice Ed doesn't actually talk about the game of football outside of "playing hard," and "working hard." Questioning his vision of what LSU football will be is a perfectly viable concern.

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Bama fans posting on this board should be immediately and permanently banned. I think this is a bannable offense even for so-called LSU fans. I'll look up the rules again in a minute. May be "goodbye".

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Ed Ogeron is the worst hire a D1 program could make, in fact, Ed Ogeron has not successfully interviewed and gained a head coaching position since Ole Miss. No one else was going to hire Ed Ogeron. That makes it a terrible decision.

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You hate his hire of Matt Canada? You hate the fires he has made? The fact he extended Dave Aranda? Which of the five hires/promotions do you think displays his lack of vision to improve LSU? Don't wait too long to answer in case you are gone.

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Did I say I hated any of that? Please tell me how Ed plans to Use Canada and Aranda, how one supports the other? What kind of football do we want to play?

I'd rather two no name coaches who a head coach knows how to get the best out of and develop a gameplan and attack the opposing team with a purpose, over two decorated coaches that we throw together and see what happens. I'd rather there be a point to hiring Canada and Aranda than just to simply hiring Canada and Aranda.

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And I don't see how idiots can't see that Coach O has assembled what may be the best coaching staff in college football.

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You could hire the most talented people in the world in whatever job you need. If you don't know how to develop and use those talents, then you are probably wasting everyone's time. Sure, they may be SO talented that they overcome the lack of foresight of the person who hired them, but that's rare and a huge risk.

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Freauxzen

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Lol that guys post was 100% opinion just read it. And you're using logic these ppl respond to logic the way a fembot responds to Austin powers mojo.