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Bert Macklin FBI
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re: Article on Linehan split from Dallas
The issue with that is he was coaching under a Jason Garrett who is known for being conservative and predictable. Garrett is a Les Mikes type that believes that Execution trumps scheme.



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I think a lot of the aggressive or conservative play calling is influenced by the HC and in the NFL, the GM and owner. If CEO wants to stay aggressive all he as to do is say so and SE and SL will do so. The key is knowing what is genius aggressive and what is dumb aggressive...

Everyone knows about 3rd and 17 play call against UT but in rewatching the Clemson game I noticed that we converted 3rd and 19 (PI penalty), 3rd and 13, and 3rd and 11. We need to keep that kind of calling and execution up. As for the PI penalty on 3rd and 19 the play would have been a legitimate catch if the defender did not tackle Terrace Marshall because he knew he was beat on the play.



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So Linehan’s offense sputtered when the key players were injured? Man, who would have guessed that?


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We need to keep that kind of calling and execution u


Since all those big plays were outside of the red zone, wouldn’t SE have called them?

My only point is while Brady is gone, we still have SE as OC and O as HC and they were all behind opening things up, being aggressive and throwing the ball downfield. It wasn’t all Brady.


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re: Article on Linehan split from Dallas
LSU fans need to remember that Dallas Cowboy fans and the media that covers the team are the most arrogant people in the NFL. They truly believe the Cowboys are America's team and that their players are the best. They believe Dallas is a Super Bowl team every year and if they don't make it, it is everyone's fault but Jerry Jones.

So frick them and their opinions.


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So Linehan’s offense sputtered when the key players were injured? Man, who would have guessed that?


Dude is no Curley Hallman for sure. Curley was great with or without Brett Favre. You just could not tell a difference.


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Nado Jenkins83
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Anybody that plays or coaches in dallas gets over analyzed.


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IndianInBR
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re: Article on Linehan split from Dallas
is it that hard to understand he wont be making most of the calls, so the whole point is moot.


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O brought in multiple offensive analysts. We scout our opponents ,plus we self scout. They didn't lead the nation in scoring ,and break records because they were stupid.So his teams were more successful when his best players played. And less successful when they were injured . Duh,so water is wet, sounds like a quality depth issue to me. Next man up,geaux tigers.


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is it that hard to understand he wont be making most of the calls, so the whole point is moot.



why is he tied for the 2nd highest paid coach on the staff then?


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The good news is, a PGC isn't a position that makes/breaks you


Yet you still say that the hire is a huge stretch! Just admit it, you really never seriously followed LSU football until after we beat Bama and you learned the name Joe Brady and because this you think we will be loss without him?

Also because you read an ESPN article that is not favorable about our PGC


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geauxtigers33
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That article uses the fact that his offense didn’t work well with backups than it did with its best players as a negative against him. Congratulations Linehan you are like every other coach in the world.


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tigerpimpbot
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re: Article on Linehan split from Dallas
Look who Linehan worked for....

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Jason Garrett’s Aggressively Conservative Playcalling Could Be His Downfall
The Cowboys’ head coach is known for being risk averse to a fault, something which may have cost his team a game against the Patriots on Sunday—and maybe could have a greater impact down the line.
CONOR ORRNOV 25, 2019

No one is asking Jason Garrett to be Kevin Kelly, the prolific high school coach who refuses to punt. They’re not even asking him to be John Harbaugh, who, out of all the coaches in the NFL, has led the way by firmly embracing analytical decision-making.

But it might be nice to see the league’s most risk-averse coach resemble something other than a compensated advertiser for a minivan manufacturer, the kind of person who happily melts at the idea of being as safe and conventional as possible. It cost the team a signature win on Sunday—or at least the chance of attaining one.

For those who missed it in the 4:25 p.m. window: Dallas was trailing New England 13-6 in the fourth quarter with a little more than six minutes to play. The team got as far as the Patriots’ 11-yard line, but after failing to convert a passing play on third-and-seven, the Cowboys opted to kick a nonsensical field goal that brought the score within four points. Dallas later got the ball back with 2:38 to play but failed to get the ball past midfield, and the Patriots walked away with a 13–9 win.

Garrett’s decision to kick a field goal was confounding on multiple levels:

• First, there is the fact that New England’s defense is the best in football. Dallas had only crossed midfield four times on the night and inched inside the 25-yard line twice, with the second time during the drive in question. What led them to believe they could do something like that a third time, but with a compressed clock that largely takes away their best offensive asset in Ezekiel Elliott? In that same breath, New England’s offense only cracked Dallas’ 25-yard line twice all game. What are the odds they’ll do it after starting deep in their own territory (assuming the worst case scenario, that Dallas doesn’t convert and hands New England the ball at their own 11-yard line).

• Second, there is the play-calling itself. The Cowboys ended up taking two totally unnecessary end-zone shots when the first down was far more attainable and would have given them a chance to set up a short yardage situation that could attack the lesser of two evils in the Patriots’ defensive scheme.

• Third is sort of the root of the problem to begin with. Because Garrett was never not going to kick the field goal, he approached third down like he always does— the end of the line. However, when a coach allows himself to see a series in four-down increments, they can change the way they call plays on second and third down to better set themselves up for a successful fourth down. They could have, for example, run Elliott, who was averaging 4.1 yards per carry, on second and even third down.

We’re all talking about what Jerry Jones said (or didn’t say) about Garrett and his staff following the 13-9 loss, but we’re not talking about how Garrett’s attitude toward some of the most commonly misunderstood and misinterpreted decisions in the NFL have been applauded at the highest levels of the Cowboys organization years prior. At some point this was thought of as good coaching; it became part of Garrett’s milieu. Now it could come back to hurt him.

There is probably not going to be the drastic type of analytical revolution in football that we saw in baseball, which saw teams that refused to adjust suffer from almost a decade of futility. But as smart minds with an eye on this kind of thing have told me, it will cost NFL teams a game or two every season. Compound that over the course of a career—or in this case, an especially critical season that could decide whether or not Garrett is invited back to coach the Cowboys—and it could end up meaning everything to someone.



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The issue with that is he was coaching under a Jason Garrett who is known for being conservative and predictable. Garrett is a Les Mikes type that believes that Execution trumps scheme.


Also its a well known fact that Garrett was calling the plays Lineman's last year. Garret was forced sacrifice him, Jerry then promoted Moore and told Garret that Moore would be calling plays.

Garret threw this back in Jerry's face at the end when he was trying to save his job, saying they would have made the playoffs if he had been calling plays.


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rbdallas
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re: Article on Linehan split from Dallas
He alspo had Kellen Moore (30 yo) as OC/play caller.


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Downvote me all you want,


Done



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anne
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As much as O has earned the right to be trusted, this hire is a huge stretch IMO.


so, lets see if I have this straight. Some dips shite thinks he knows more about our coaching staff than the actual coach? The same coach that just delivered an undefeated season and is Coach of the year?

Dude...time for you to get back to work at Canes frying those chicken fingers. Leave these decisions to the big boys who know what they are doing.

We just hired a guy with major NFL experience as an OC...including a stint as head coach in the NFL as our Passing Game Coordinator...WTF is wrong with you?



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Shh don’t you know the rant hates reality?


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vjp819
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i'm not concerned with this guy. Coach O has proven if the offense isn't working, he will remove any responsibility from him, and Linehan won't be anymore than a coach with a title and nothing to do.


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re: Article on Linehan split from Dallas
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but your wearing rose-colored glasses
You’re


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