re: Arkansas Radio Speculates Steroid Use By "Gorilla Ball" Team

Sure steriods where around in the 90s but like I said LSU wasn't the only team hitting homeruns.......#'s where up in the game in general.

My point is all teams were using steroids and better bats with more pop. We use to use our high scool bats when playing hr derby becouse there was a significant difference.

1997 team:

Player / HRs
Brandon Larson... 40
Mike Koerner..... 22
Tom Bernhardt.... 17
Eddy Furniss..... 17
Wes Davis........ 16
Blair Barbier.... 15 ( slowly got 'big' over the years )
Trey McClure..... 12
Danny Higgins.... 11
Casey Cuntz...... 11
Brad Cresse...... 9
Clint Earnhart... 6
Conan Horton..... 5
Jeremy Witten.... 3
Johnnie Thibodeau 2
Bryon Bennett.... 1
Keith Polozola... 1


Larson was the only person on the 97 team who could even be accused of having 'the look' of juicing. That still leaves 148 HRs as a team. Is someone going to say Koerner juiced? Bernhardt? Furniss? Davis? Blair ( he slowly got bigger as his time at LSU increased )? Please...

The bats were juiced, not the players. Could some players have touched the stuff while at LSU? Of course...just like some players at any other college could have as well. The point is, if those homer run totals were the product of roids, then all but Larson should be asking for their money back.

Just stop hatin' on your own guys...jeesh...

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You guys speculating that they "might" have used steroids back in the 1990's need to just cool it! Unless you can prove your allegation/ speculation, you have no right to be accusatory toward anyone. The obvious conclusion to be drawn using your argument: every big man used steroids to get that way. Not true!

Moreover, the old "if they did it's alright because everybody did it" argument doesn't hold water. Right is right and wrong is wrong.

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I haven't thrown any stones. However, I'm not sure I can walk the "if I can't prove it, shut-up" / no proof = denial + moral indignation tightrope. I think baseball authorities have failed to walk this tightrope as well.

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Because it is LSU were suppose to assume its 100% bats?

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Nope, just this.

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To deny their usage is simply being obtuse. "It ain't cheating unless you get caught."

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They openly admitted to using creatine. There was an article in the paper about Eddy Furniss using it. It wasn't against the rules and there was no attempt to hide it.

Okay, lets not be naive, steroids were definitely involved with some of those gorilla ball teams...

However you can't sit here and point the finger at LSU, because every team was using them... it's not like they were made in skip bertman's garage.

That's why the mitchell report was so flawed because it gave an inaccurate representation of the entire league based on a few witness accounts... i believe they call it a hasty generalization.

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its possible, but remember that athletes are random;y tested in season and out of season. HGH was not tested for, but hell, a college kid affording a designer steriod?? come on.

I was there five yrs and got tested at least 3-4 times a season. first violation was counseling and whatever punishment your coach decided upon, and testing up to at least once a week. 2nd violation was mandatory suspension by ncaa, but the reason for missing games would never be made public. it could easily be due to a 'tweaked hammy' or something else.

Usually when a collegiate athlete's drug test is leaked publicly, he has tested positive several, several times and the athletic dept is ready to ship him.

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I'll add this too, if one guy tested + for something, they started to test his 'run around' friends, his roommates, everyone. So some of this, "steroids is running rampant thru the teams" is off-base, if there was a + test than everyone on the team suffered.

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You obviously know more than you are willing to say, which I can understand. What's your story? Plausible deniability? Not wanting to rat? They did? They didn't? No comment?

Just saying... it's a mess.

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People need to realize there is/was very adequate practices in place to test all athletes. And no, there wasn't any underhanded practices to supervent. The drug administration program is done by a doctor, usually hired by the university. Their interest is the health of the athlete foremost. And if a + test was a result, I can promise that the HC, the AD, and the student athlete's parents were contacted. I dont care what age you are, there is still something ominous about, 'notifying your parents'.

And if you did test +, an interview was given to find out where you bought it, what teammates are in volved, the whole nine yards. It isnt something that could be swept under the rug.