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re: Are expectations so low now, that some are legit upset at talk of getting a proven coach?
Posted on 4/18/19 at 11:54 pm to Freauxzen
Posted on 4/18/19 at 11:54 pm to Freauxzen
Why are we having this discussion now? There is no scenario where O is not our coach in 2019. That being the case, why don’t we see what the F happens first! As soon as we miss the playoffs, feel free to start bitching again. Until then, for the love of God stop beating this dead horse, nothing is going to change until the team plays some friggin football again.
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Posted on 4/18/19 at 11:59 pm to BigBrod81
I’ve actually had one of them tell me, not long ago, that the BCS was still used as a composite ranking system in college football lol.
Posted on 4/19/19 at 12:17 am to Handsome Pete
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Why are we having this discussion now? There is no scenario where O is not our coach in 2019.
Again, no one is having this discussion. The only discussion is the future possibility, considering our new AD. As well as the anger some have displayed at this suggestion.
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That being the case, why don’t we see what the F happens first!
We are.
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Until then, for the love of God stop beating this dead horse, nothing is going to change until the team plays some friggin football again.
We know.
Posted on 4/19/19 at 12:26 am to nvasil1
Nobody’s even calling for him to be fired, I for one think this season is his best chance to do something of relevance. Brady was a great hire we have elite talent at the WR position, we have experience and talent at RB and throughout the offebse plus the SEC West is way down. The discussion was if you had the choice would you take Jimbo over Orgeron that’s it. One side of the argument said they’d take Orgeron over Jimbo because Jimbo wasn’t better or good enough and when asked why went into a tantrum because they couldn’t produce any evidence to back that claim. That is the argument in a nutshell.
This post was edited on 4/19/19 at 12:29 am
Posted on 4/19/19 at 12:53 am to Madking
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Nobody’s even calling for him to be fired, I for one think this season is his best chance to do something of relevance.
Agreed.
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Brady was a great hire we have elite talent at the WR position, we have experience and talent at RB and throughout the offebse plus the SEC West is way down.
Agreed.
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The discussion was if you had the choice would you take Jimbo over Orgeron that’s it. One side of the argument said they’d take Orgeron over Jimbo because Jimbo wasn’t better or good enough and when asked why went into a tantrum because they couldn’t produce any evidence to back that claim. That is the argument in a nutshell.
Correct, and it's not a ludicrous opinion, in the least. God forbid we question Lord Orgeron. Again, if his accomplishments could stand alone against other coaches already, there wouldn't be so much debate.Posted on 4/19/19 at 5:41 am to Madking
That discussion was if people dont want to get rid of O now they care more about O than the team.This is all based on the new AD’s perceived ability to hire Jimbo.
Posted on 4/19/19 at 5:50 am to 251Tiger
I think it would be safe to say that when Miles was let go 95% of this board was in favor of hiring Jimbo.I believe O has done a great job putting the team in a position to succeed.BTW Success to me is the playoffs.
Posted on 4/19/19 at 6:05 am to RobbBobb
Legit!
This post was edited on 4/19/19 at 6:07 am
Posted on 4/19/19 at 6:05 am to RobbBobb
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Are expectations so low now, that some are legit upset at talk of getting a proven coach?
My expectation was to hire someone who talks just like me. Expectations met!
Posted on 4/19/19 at 6:18 am to FightingTigers138
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Has there ever been a coach fired after winning 10 games?
Well if McNeese isn’t cancelled in 2015 Miles would have won 10, and he was actively being replaced that November and was actually fired the next September.
Regardless, not a single person has said or even hinted that O should be fired right now.
But the situation is changed and needs to prove that he can get the most out of this team, something he hasn’t done yet in 2 and a half seasons.
No more losing games he should win. He should have gone at least 6-1 in 16, at least 10-2 in 17, and 10-2 last year.
And this year with the perfectly setup schedule we have, the proven, veteran, Meyer trained QB to go along with the most returning starters we will ever have, the time is now to go 11-1 and seriously put ourselves in position for a playoff spot.
If not this year, what possible reason is there to believe we ever will under this regime?
If he can’t prove that he can do it now, this AD is going to want to bring in his own guy just like any other AD would.
I’m not saying he’ll be fired if he goes 10-2, though it wouldn’t surprise or upset me. But failing to reach our full potential for the fourth year in a row would absolutely put him on the hot seat going into 2020 when things are shaping up to be a much rockier road.
O absolutely needs to win and win huge this year, which is how it should be every year anyway. No more of this oh but it’s such a rebuild nonsense.
Posted on 4/19/19 at 6:20 am to SaintInBham
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I stopped reading right there. UCF with a QB playing his second game. And by the way, add another 2 minutes on the clock and that game probably ends very differently.
Multiple DEF starters not playing, and ejected, with a WR playing DB in the 2d half...cmon, give the man and team their due for a big W in a major bowl.
Posted on 4/19/19 at 6:53 am to 251Tiger
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That discussion was if people dont want to get rid of O now they care more about O than the team.This
This right here. If you're not prepared right now to replace O with jimbo then you're an O lover who puts that in front of LSU football. Yes there are posters who seriously think that it would be perfectly ok to fire O right now and bring in jimbo. Anyone saying different haven't paid attention in this thread. I'm sorry for some of the posts in this thread if I've attacked anyone that didn't deserve it I apologize. Those that deserve it and you know who you are can GFY. I don't have a lot of patience because I'm on borrowed time.
Posted on 4/19/19 at 7:35 am to RobbBobb
STFU!!!
Posted on 4/19/19 at 7:49 am to RobbBobb
I went ahead and bookmarked for this December when O wins 11 games and jimbo wins 7.
Posted on 4/19/19 at 7:58 am to Goldrush25
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No amount of results can compete with the human imagination.
I really don't see many people, or any, saying Miles was a bad coach. Most people just felt the program was slipping with him in recent years. We hadn't finished a season even in the top 10 since 2011. In Orgerons 2nd year he got us ranked #6 and back to being a releavant program once again. Things are looking pretty good for 2019 as well. Do you not agree that the outlook for 2019 season is pretty good? WE shall see. It just seems their are some very vocal posters who are on here day and night, 24/7, who don't want to give Orgeron a chance. He has only been HC for two seasons, one of which was better than anything we have had since 2011. Why not wait and see how it works out long term before being so eager to replace him? It would seem fans would want Orgeron to succeed as HC as it would be LSU is also successful.
Posted on 4/19/19 at 8:09 am to bencoleman
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I went ahead and bookmarked for this December when O wins 11 games and jimbo wins 7.
will be a very interesting season on a lot of levels. I'm sure these people will still be knocking Orgeron no matter what happens.
They probably get more clicks for the board like this but they have made this forum very boring. We just can't have normal discussions on here anymore. It would be nice to be able to discuss the state of the program, pros and cons, without having to go all in on defending or attacking Orgeron. The board has gotton to where you are forced to choose sides and then either be fully on the attack or fully on the defense of the coach. This board just sucks arse these days.
Posted on 4/19/19 at 8:13 am to Prominentwon
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Apologies that he didn’t beat BAMA, a decade long dynasty, in his second full year as head coach
You avoided the question. What championship of any kind has O ever led a team to?
Posted on 4/19/19 at 8:17 am to boxcar willie
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. It just seems their are some very vocal posters who are on here day and night, 24/7, who don't want to give Orgeron a chance. He has only been HC for two seasons, one of which was better than anything we have had since 2011. Why not wait and see how it works out long term before being so eager to replace him? It would seem fans would want Orgeron to succeed as HC as it would be LSU is also successful
I honestly don't understand their reasoning. It's like they have no problem setting the program back if it means that they can get rid of O. I could understand that mindset if the team was a dumpster fire but it's not. From what I've seen the team is well coached and they seem to be making the right hires. While there have been a couple of setbacks they've been addressed and everyone seems to be moving forward. Again I don't understand what people are complaining about. They feel cheated over the coaching search. I think that they believe that LSU deserved a coach that had won a NC before. I was upset about the hire too. It took me about an hour to get over it. Some of these people will never let it go. No matter how many games O wins.
Posted on 4/19/19 at 8:19 am to boxcar willie
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He has only been HC for two seasons, one of which was better than anything we have had since 2011.
Regular season losses:
2012: 2
2013: 3
2014: 4
2015: 3
2016: 4
2017: 3
2018: 3
The regular season is what counts. Not sneaking into a bowl where you face a mid Major with one of the worst defenses in the country.
We weren’t top 10 when bowls were selected. That means we were nowhere even close to being a playoff team.
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Why not wait and see how it works out long term before being so eager to replace him?
How long is long term?
Would say 2020 be too soon to judge a coach that was hired for primarily for continuity?
Posted on 4/19/19 at 8:20 am to Damone
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What championship of any kind has O ever led a team to
He's in his third year at LSU. I don't guess you think he deserves any time to get there do you.
How many NCs does ole miss have?
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