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re: Apologies to WBB, but the LSU baseball team deserves a bigger percentage of rev. share
Posted on 1/30/26 at 12:51 pm to MrWalkingMan
Posted on 1/30/26 at 12:51 pm to MrWalkingMan
College baseball has come a long way tv availability and ratings wise. It wasn't long ago when you had to listen to SEC tournament games and regional games on the radio or go searching for them on ESPNU. Now EVERY SEC tournament game is televised and EVERY regional and super is televised (may have to pay for regionals but still). And ESPN plus has made it possible to stream all the games which is nice.
Again, slow progress but still progress.
And now with NIL (which I dislike for Football and basketball) is really a positive for baseball to keep that talent in college instead of wasting away in the minors IMO.
Again, slow progress but still progress.
And now with NIL (which I dislike for Football and basketball) is really a positive for baseball to keep that talent in college instead of wasting away in the minors IMO.
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Posted on 1/30/26 at 12:58 pm to extremetigerfanatic
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I didn't do a deep dive on viewership of LSU mens bb games v women's bball games, but the women definitely out perform them on ticket sales.
Ticket Sales by sport:
Baseball: $3,881,636
Men's basketball: $2,057,646
Women's basketball: $1,605,992
Posted on 1/30/26 at 12:58 pm to Jauquismos
I don't know that saying you can watch all of those games on ESPN's app is convincing of anything.
I can also watch all of LSU's womens volleyball, Womens soccer, and every single Softball game.
You'd actually have to find the numbers of viewers. Which they don't publish.
I can also watch all of LSU's womens volleyball, Womens soccer, and every single Softball game.
You'd actually have to find the numbers of viewers. Which they don't publish.
Posted on 1/30/26 at 1:03 pm to CDawson
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Why do you think Tony left TN? They were cutting his rev share and giving more to WBB. Why? WBB generates more TV money that baseball, its simple.
At LSU baseball and MBB draw more revenues than WBB does. That’s been well documented.
Posted on 1/30/26 at 1:05 pm to Jim Hopper
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not really ticket sales that make MBB profitable it’s the tv contract, LSU could probably have the Pmac empty all season without a single soul and they would still break even because the money coming in from the networks.
That doesn’t answer the question I asked, why does the revenue from men’s ticket sales far surpass the women’s?
This post was edited on 1/30/26 at 1:08 pm
Posted on 1/30/26 at 1:07 pm to extremetigerfanatic
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Ticket Sales by sport:
Baseball: $3,881,636
Men's basketball: $2,057,646
Women's basketball: $1,605,992
Fair,
I would argue however, that this is because mens tix are more expensive on average. The women outdrew the men last year. The men averaged about 7,200 per home game. The women averaged 10,700.
Baseball has twice as many games and they also have TAF specialty boxes.
Baseball played 41 home games last year, while WBB had 20. This includes postseason games.
Posted on 1/30/26 at 1:09 pm to doubleb
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That doesn’t answer the question I asked, why to the men’s ticket sales far surpass the women’s?
They don't if tix sale means a ticket.
They do once you add in difference in tix prices and Seat charges.
I would wonder about corporate tix as well. I am pretty sure the company I work for buys mbb tix at a certain level to help keep our standing for the football tix we have. We used to do wbb but stopped because it didn't gain us anything for football.
This post was edited on 1/30/26 at 1:13 pm
Posted on 1/30/26 at 1:10 pm to extremetigerfanatic
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I would argue however, that this is because mens tix are more expensive on average
Why is that?
Posted on 1/30/26 at 1:14 pm to doubleb
I truly don't know. I've given some reasons possibly in above posts.
But you are probably on to something.
If you gave them away in supermarkets like the WBB had to do in the early 80s, maybe people would actually go to the mens games.
You should suggest it.
But you are probably on to something.
If you gave them away in supermarkets like the WBB had to do in the early 80s, maybe people would actually go to the mens games.
You should suggest it.
This post was edited on 1/30/26 at 1:31 pm
Posted on 1/30/26 at 1:49 pm to extremetigerfanatic
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I truly don't know. I've given some reasons possibly in above posts. But you are probably on to something. If you gave them away in supermarkets like the WBB had to do in the early 80s, maybe people would actually go to the mens games. You should suggest it.
I would if it would produce revenues.
The problem is giving away tickets and charging bargain prices for WBB hasn’t done much to increase revenues enough to offset the big spending increases that we’ve seen.
I doubt doing that for the men would help much at all. The men don’t need gimmicks, they need a complete makeover.
Posted on 1/30/26 at 2:10 pm to doubleb
There are TWICE as many home games in baseball as compared to WBB. So comparing total ticket revenue in both of these sports is not valid, IMO.
The solution to revenue sharing for athletes is to properly allocate NIL as a supplement to that.
The solution to revenue sharing for athletes is to properly allocate NIL as a supplement to that.
Posted on 1/30/26 at 2:12 pm to extremetigerfanatic
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People dont want to hear this, but this is the closest I can get to a breakdown.
Per ChatGPT and its sources, Each SEC school for the 24/25 school year made roughly $55 from the SEC/ESPN TV deal for all sports.
I asked it to then give me the LSU breakdown by sport and it essentially said that there are no real numbers available in the public. So I asked it to use past years, contract info that is available, look at as many schools around the big 4 conferences as a reference and give it a best guess.
This is what it said.
Category Approx % of Value LSU Portion (Estimate)
Football ~75 % ~$38–40M
Men’s Basketball ~15–20 % ~$8–11M
All Other Sports & Misc. ~5–10 % ~$3–5M
So, yes, what is going on is that LSU is spending just about the same amount of money on womens and mens basketball and the TV deal is what makes the Mens bb make money and womens bb (and every single other sport including baseball) lose money.
I didn't do a deep dive on viewership of LSU mens bb games v women's bball games, but the women definitely out perform them on ticket sales. I'd be interested to know if ESPN is paying LSU specifically for ultimately no one to watch the LSU mens games.
As an aside, the amount of money that is from mens bball, just in general, but specifically from being a part of the SEC, makes the fact that we have suffered thru McMahon a travesty. It's kind of inexcusable.
So ChatGPT basically says it doesn't know and can't find an answer then makes one up.
How much value each sport contributed to the $27.6 million Not Related to Specific Teams deal is debatable. And I'm sure this deal is more than just broadcast rights for specific sports.
There's also this $28.8 million of Contributions (donations/TAF) that are Not Related to Specific Teams
If LSU were to allocate a share of these funds based on value to WBB and baseball. Both would easily be profitable.
Posted on 1/30/26 at 2:26 pm to KamaCausey_LSU
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If LSU were to allocate a share of these funds based on value to WBB and baseball. Both would easily be profitable.
Not WBB
But no one expects WBB and the other sports except MBB and baseball to pay for themselves.
The Ath Dept isn’t in business to make money. There aren’t stockholders, dividends to pay, nor is there profit sharing.
The challenge now is to live up to the court settlement, and find revenues to pay revenue sharing or cut costs somewhere to help do that. While doing that it’s important to remain competitive with the other schools.
NIL is another story.
Posted on 1/30/26 at 2:39 pm to doubleb
I mean, I am not sure what to do with that breakdown. It supports what ChatGPT told me the total amount of the TV deal.
Then it essentially says over half of the deal is not any type of team specific.
That makes absolutely no sense.
So half of the money we get from ESPN comes from just in general being a University that is in the SEC?
That's patently retarded. Literally every single dollar can be allocated to a sport for every single team in the SEC and every single sport. We all know the vast majority of the deal is for football.
They just don't do it. The SEC doesn't get paid to exist.
And by the way, I you are complaining about something that I stated upfront. I didn't say any of the numbers were real. I literally said I asked chatgpt to guess based on what every other conference does.
What you posted makes even less sense to me however.
Then it essentially says over half of the deal is not any type of team specific.
That makes absolutely no sense.
So half of the money we get from ESPN comes from just in general being a University that is in the SEC?
That's patently retarded. Literally every single dollar can be allocated to a sport for every single team in the SEC and every single sport. We all know the vast majority of the deal is for football.
They just don't do it. The SEC doesn't get paid to exist.
And by the way, I you are complaining about something that I stated upfront. I didn't say any of the numbers were real. I literally said I asked chatgpt to guess based on what every other conference does.
What you posted makes even less sense to me however.
This post was edited on 1/30/26 at 2:41 pm
Posted on 1/30/26 at 2:44 pm to extremetigerfanatic
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But no one expects WBB and the other sports except MBB and baseball to pay for themselves.
The Ath Dept isn’t in business to make money. There aren’t stockholders, dividends to pay, nor is there profit sharing.
And as much as the men on this board seem to revile it, LSU still has to stay with Title 9.
So if we have to do it (and we know we will lose money on it), why not try to be good at it. You never know if you can make something more profitable if you don't try. Will it make money? No. But it might move towards breaking even in the long term.
If we are gonna complain about not making money, why are we celebrating our dynastic baseball program. It loses money too.
Posted on 1/30/26 at 3:03 pm to extremetigerfanatic
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If we are gonna complain about not making money, why are we celebrating our dynastic baseball program. It loses money too.
I’m not complaining about not making money.
I am complaining about the state of the MBB and how we are failing miserably on the scoreboard, and financially.
The women are excelling on the scoreboard, but they are doing worse than the men financially and it seems they will get even more.
Posted on 1/30/26 at 3:34 pm to doubleb
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The women are excelling on the scoreboard, but they are doing worse than the men financially and it seems they will get even more.
As they should because they are consistently WINNING.
Posted on 1/30/26 at 3:36 pm to LSBoosie
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I’ll start with why I care. I personally enjoy baseball and going to baseball games much more than women’s basketball. I see the much needed improvements that need to be made around baseball. I would like more money to be funneled into baseball to give LSU baseball a better shot at winning, which in turn increases the outside investment into baseball. This is all my personal preference and some people probably don’t feel the same, I’m just telling you why I care.
Man, this is THE most honest answer I've seen in this thread. I respect that. By the same token, I personally enjoy WBB and going to THEIR games (when possible), much more than baseball. I would like more money funneled to WBB, OR for the SEC to negotiate a fair TV package so that the WBB team gets the same kinda of revenue sharing, commensurate with their popularity.
Posted on 1/30/26 at 3:57 pm to extremetigerfanatic
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They just don't do it. The SEC doesn't get paid to exist.
Exclusive rights to own/operate the SEC network is probably worth a good chunk of change. Plus marketing rights and use rights for all schools.
Posted on 1/30/26 at 3:57 pm to lsualum96
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As they should because they are consistently WINNING.
Then they should get more than football?
Baseball should get the most. They took it all last year.
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