re: Anyone else feel we should have not fired Wade(ride it out)

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I have forgotten what exactly are the penalties for a show cause?
One of the requirements for using a coach under a show cause is a twice yearly meeting where the coach and university cooperate fully to show there are no violations, including turning over bank statements and phone records. Since Wade will never turn over his bank records he would just be made ineligible every year and the school would receive additional sanctions, EVERY YEAR.

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Additionally, most show-cause restrictions stipulate that a coach cannot recruit, sometimes even to the point of not being able to contact a recruit who is on campus. For example, since Bruce Pearl's show-cause expired a few months after he was hired by Auburn, he could not recruit for them during that time.

A coach with a show-cause essentially can't do his job.

Wiki list of some coaches and their show-cause restrictions.

We really don't know if SW knows more than we know or if any deals were made regarding sanctions.

At the very least, I would have liked to have seen them wait until the tournament was over or until we were out of it to fire him if that's ultimately what was going to happen.

I have mixed feelings about the whole thing. I like Will Wade, but right now, I'm mad at everyone involved. That changes from time to time, but I'm always mad at someone.

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Woodward should have had that buyout come out of his paycheck. He's a freakin idiot for giving Orgeron that insane contract only to fire him a year or so later

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I still for the life of me don’t get why people bitch about this. It has absolutely zero effect on anything that matters. Did it hinder our ability to hire and pay new coach and staff? Nope. Will It prevent us from spending on something else, facility upgrades or recruiting budget or something else? Nope.

It’s literally fans just looking for something to bitch about

Can anyone tell me why it’s called a show cause penalty? I’ve got no idea and am reading that it means major violations and that a coach carries that with him if he hired by another school. Also found an article about several coaches who’ve come back from severe show cause penalties.

But again, is there a reason it’s called “show cause”?? Just curious.

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They had very little choice. There was an overwhelming media sentiment that we were cheaters. It showed in how games were called as well…

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Again.. Who gives a flying frick what the media says about us? When has their coverage ever been fair regarding basketball coaches and their improper behavior?

I am done with Woodward just like I was done with Alleva. This was 100% a way out for him to get the coach he wants and not what the fans or players wanted at all. CSB but I know a guy that has LSU athletic ties and was discussing WW with him a few months ago. His demeanor around Wade didn't come across to me like he thought WW would be around for a long time in the future.. I didn't think much of it at the time.

I'd rather go through the show cause and keep Wade as long as we possibly can other than cut our frickin knees out from underneath us and drop our program back into the basement. The extortion shite with the phone he handed over to the NCAA was from a player at VCU.. Had nothing to do with us.

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Can anyone tell me why it’s called a show cause penalty?

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It's taken from the same used term used in court proceedings.

For NCAA coaches, it means the AD must meet with the NCAA every few months to "show cause" which is basically "present proof" to the satisfaction of the investigators that the coach has amended his behavior and is no longer breaking NCAA rules.

It places burden of proof onto the university AD and not the NCAA to prove otherwise.

Furthermore, if the university fails to prove this, the program currently employing the "show cause" coach is liable for punishment for not only current infractions but also infractions which caused the show cause to issued.

It's supposed to make it hell for ADs to worry over every single little dotted i surrounding the coach/program as a deterrent for hiring these coaches.

The NCAA adopted it mainly due to fans complaining that everyone suffered except the coaches themselves in the old way of punishing offenses.

Me.

And risk the football program, no.

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No one can justify 0’s buyout. No one.

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Sure we can. He was given a raise and extension commensurate with what other coaches who have seasons like 2019 (ie win the NC) get. It is common practice that has nothing to do with whether someone else was trying to hire him. That he was fired for performance less than 2 years later is hindsight. And if the full amount was necessary for him to sign an NDA it’s worth it

What can’t be explained is why fans like you care or treat it as black mark against the AD. It literally effects NOTHING but Os bank account

wm72 I appreciate the explanation.