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re: Anyone afraid of prospect (or reality) of JaMarcus Russell
Posted on 12/7/09 at 1:35 am to LSUboi242
Posted on 12/7/09 at 1:35 am to LSUboi242
He looks happy being on the sidelines...He's not a student of the game.He for sure makes LSU look bad with his post Raider game interviews! While I wish him good luck with his new "I am the man"(he's not} attitude and maybe becoming a good pro Qb.Right now he's a rip off to the fans! 
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Posted on 12/7/09 at 1:35 am to LSUboi242
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Posted on 12/7/09 at 1:46 am to Budroar
i dont even know where tim couch or ryan leaf went to college.. couch played at UK i think..?
however i think everyone knows russell went to LSU.. still shouldnt be a factor..
however i think everyone knows russell went to LSU.. still shouldnt be a factor..
Posted on 12/7/09 at 1:48 am to thunderbird1100
quote:Ryan Leaf.
biggest bust in NFL history
Posted on 12/7/09 at 2:07 am to lsutigerfan1976
he needs a change of scenery
Posted on 12/7/09 at 2:08 am to Roaad
Leaf, easy.
Guys were calling him better than Manning and was invited to NY for the Heisman, where he snagged 2-3rd that year.
I remember he was at wazzu, and tore through the PAC10 defenses. But at that time PAC10 Ds were about as tough as a canned spam.
Guys were calling him better than Manning and was invited to NY for the Heisman, where he snagged 2-3rd that year.
I remember he was at wazzu, and tore through the PAC10 defenses. But at that time PAC10 Ds were about as tough as a canned spam.
Posted on 12/7/09 at 2:16 am to thunderbird1100
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Being labeled the biggest bust in NFL history overtaking Tim Couch? Would kind of suck because he's associated with LSU.
Impossible for either one of these guys to over take Ryan Leaf. I remember watching him play in bowl games when I was in highschool, they way espn talked about him you would have sworn he was the second comming of Jesus. Wasn't he just fired from a D3 school as a coach?
Posted on 12/7/09 at 2:18 am to hypnos
Pretty sure he was caught stealing pain pills or something, iirc
Posted on 12/7/09 at 2:24 am to hypnos
'Bama Boy'..blame it on Saban or Fisher..or Davis Jr for ignoring the wonderlic score..
JR was catching grief for his progressions/reads, motivation, leadership, and conditioning/weight, while at LSU..under Saban and to a lesser degree Miles staff..Moffitt must've been pulling his hair out at times?
And why most NFL Scouts and GMs had major question marks despite the natural talents.
Once with that Davis Jr #1 pick payday..lottery winner..coasting all the way.
JR was catching grief for his progressions/reads, motivation, leadership, and conditioning/weight, while at LSU..under Saban and to a lesser degree Miles staff..Moffitt must've been pulling his hair out at times?
And why most NFL Scouts and GMs had major question marks despite the natural talents.
Once with that Davis Jr #1 pick payday..lottery winner..coasting all the way.
This post was edited on 12/7/09 at 2:25 am
Posted on 12/7/09 at 2:53 am to Parliament
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There are bigger bust then Tim Couch and Russell.
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Signed,
Todd Marinovich
Art Schlicter
and Ryan Leaf
oops too late
This post was edited on 12/7/09 at 2:54 am
Posted on 12/7/09 at 2:55 am to TheRoarRestoredInBR
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'Bama Boy'..blame it on Saban or Fisher..or Davis Jr for ignoring the wonderlic score..
he did fine on the wonderlic, he scored the same as flynn
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And why most NFL Scouts and GMs had major question marks despite the natural talents.
it was basically him or Calvin Johnson as #1 on most of the boards
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JR was catching grief for his progressions/reads, motivation, leadership, and conditioning/weight, while at LSU..under Saban and to a lesser degree Miles staff..Moffitt must've been pulling his hair out at times?
Jimbo always gave him praise. Miles played him in 2005 with a torn wrist ligament in his throwing hand for 1/2 the season, so he obviously had confidence in him. I never heard the coaches after his freshman year question his leadership
from Jimbo:
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"You can tell him something one time and you never have to tell him again," the coordinator said. "But sometimes people stereotype based on their first impression. JaMarcus is media-shy. He doesn't go out seeking attention. He doesn't go around seeking glory."
This post was edited on 12/7/09 at 3:04 am
Posted on 12/7/09 at 3:43 am to TigerBait1127
You're right, he got a 24. And it was a low-blow for me to suggest such even if intending such as an insinuation of questionable QB IQ. But, I know folks that know him, and they insist it isn't just that he's shy. That he isn't super-sharp.
The progressions/reads, weight, silent leader stuff, I stand by.
JR rarely ever saw past his initial 1-2 receivers in three and four man sets. His arm strength, ball velocity, and accuracy, masked most of his shortcomings..at least collegiately.
The vast majority of scouts and GMs had Calvin Johnson graded/rated the best by position, and #1.
The progressions/reads, weight, silent leader stuff, I stand by.
JR rarely ever saw past his initial 1-2 receivers in three and four man sets. His arm strength, ball velocity, and accuracy, masked most of his shortcomings..at least collegiately.
The vast majority of scouts and GMs had Calvin Johnson graded/rated the best by position, and #1.
This post was edited on 12/7/09 at 3:48 am
Posted on 12/7/09 at 4:03 am to TheRoarRestoredInBR
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JR rarely ever saw past his initial 1-2 receivers in three and four man sets. His arm strength, ball velocity, and accuracy, masked most of his shortcomings..at least collegiately.
He didn't throw an int in 7 or 8 games in 2006 and only threw 8 for the whole season. You don't do that if while throwing for 68% if you can't check off receivers.
What makes him a bad leader btw? He seemed pretty good to me leading LSU to victories against 2 top 5 teams on the road. When is the last time a LSU QB accomplished that? He was the best QB in the country in 2006, and I think he showed good leadership from the 1st day that he took the field against OSU
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The vast majority of scouts and GMs had Calvin Johnson graded/rated the best by position, and #1.
most teams had JR as either the #1 or #2 player. That isn't looking past him
This post was edited on 12/7/09 at 4:09 am
Posted on 12/7/09 at 5:33 am to LSUboi242
JR could get cut tomorrow and he wouldn't be near the bust Ryan Leaf was.
Posted on 12/7/09 at 5:45 am to geaux88
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IF he actually wants to make a living playing football, he just needs a real organization that has real coaching.
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And he needs to try harder. Go see the Si.com article by Peter King from about 2 months ago.
IF he actually wants to make a living playing football, he just needs a real organization that has real coaching.
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And he needs to try harder. Go see the Si.com article by Peter King from about 2 months ago.
Posted on 12/7/09 at 5:46 am to KingwoodLsuFan
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He's getting paid and will be set for life.
I don't know about this. I have the feeling he'll be destitute by the time he's 40.
Posted on 12/7/09 at 6:12 am to Parliament
...and PS: co-signed Ryan Leaf! Not to mention a possible candidate, Heath Shuler.
Posted on 12/7/09 at 7:00 am to geaux88
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IF he actually wants to make a living playing football, he just needs a real organization that has real coaching.
That's lame. Gradkowski and Murphy have the same coaches and organization.
JR needs some "tough love". Fans who will tell him the truth rather than the coddling he gets from many fans.
Waaa Waaa it's the "idoits/racists" fault who can not admit that JR is great!
This post was edited on 12/7/09 at 7:01 am
Posted on 12/7/09 at 7:08 am to thunderbird1100
Leaf was a bigger bust than Couch.
Jamarcus is fat and lazy. Not LSU's fault.
Jamarcus is fat and lazy. Not LSU's fault.
Posted on 12/7/09 at 7:21 am to TigerSpy
Jamarcus "if he wants to make a living" ??? wtf?!!! dude has 20 million in the bank weather he ever takes another snap again. Raiders dug themselves thier own grave with the easy money contract..... He looks like he really dosnt want to play football anymore, think the death of his uncles really set him back and now he's content to just ride out contract and hang it up with $$$$ in the bank.
but Jamarcus alone isnt tarnishing our pro image....... Craig Davis,Early Doucet,Glen Dorsey, Josh Reed, along with JR is what really hurts....... JR and Dorsey are just the poster children
but Jamarcus alone isnt tarnishing our pro image....... Craig Davis,Early Doucet,Glen Dorsey, Josh Reed, along with JR is what really hurts....... JR and Dorsey are just the poster children
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