re: Any scenario - Orgeron is retained

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You negative insufferable bitches. 

Little girls. 

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Stop being little pussy girls

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There's really one person that's crying here. Might wanna check the mirror on this one.

Not only that, but IF the guy somehow goes 6-6 or misses a bowl game, I wouldn't really consider it "running him off." It would be proof that he isn't the guy for the job.

It seems like a reasonable discussion to have considering that this is a pivotal year against a more difficult schedule and they guy's record against teams with a winning record doesn't exactly inspire confidence.

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He's the 29th highest paid coach.

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That high? How many teams are there in the field?

That’s absurd given literally no other school would even hire him as HC. There was no competition and it was a gift to him to even be in the position,

It still made no sense to me to pay him that much just because they feel the position at LSU deserves it.

I don’t care if he was the lowest paid coach in the SEC, he would still have no reason not to take the deal. He didn’t need a big buyout. If he was successful then deal with a possible extension later. No reason to give the INTERIM DL coach the job with that much security. Not even for recruiting which is how they may justify it.

With that said I do like our recruiting atm and hope it holds up.

So who is gonna take the job dumb arse? Herman said no and Fisher said no twice. Who is the big name you have lined up? I remember when Saban was named HC, and some of u dumb asses questioned that one as well.

Truly a helpless fan base. How soon you have forgotten the early 90's. Hell I get most of you snowflakes weren't even born then

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It actually makes a tremendous amount of sense when you look at the totality of circumstances.

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Absolutely. Alleva’s and the boosters’ grand mistake was, first, publicly leaking that Miles was on thin ice and, second, firing him only four games into the season. Logically, it would seem that Miles was fired not for losing the game, nor for his stubbornness...rather, he was fired for insubordination. Once he was carried off the field after the A&M game, he’d called their bluff over firing him for refusing to do it any way other than how he saw fit. It was a good call by Miles because he would’ve either made it through the rest of that season, win or lose, and still get his full buyout. Despite the “I miss Les” sentimentality that’s having a real reinesance on tRant right now, everyone knew it was time to move on. By playing the saga out in the public, the boosters’ allowed themselves to be overruled by the court of public opinion. So, Les got a second chance and was probably more defiant than ever, behind closed doors. Rightfully so. He gets fired less than 24 hours after Auburn, and who the frick would you replace him with? The only real option was to promote someone who was already on staff and, like it or not, Orgeron was the best option. He then got to audition for the gig while we were talking to him and others. Because the boosters put themselves into such a shitshow of a situation, they had no leverage to negotiate with prospective coaches, which is exactly fricking why Herman tried playing us by leaking the y’all of a contract on the day of the R-kansas game. He had a dominant negotiating position and, when it became apparent that he’d either ring us out for every nickel or he’d create a bidding war to get a monster contract with Texas. I think he wanted the latter and Alleva, to his credit, recognized that and fricked up his little scheme by giving him to Texas at the lowest possible price.

I’m not like most people on here in that I’m ok with Orgeron. If we win games with him, I’m all for him. And I think Orgeron gets to play out this year without getting sacked. On the whole, I’m cautiously optimistic about 2018: we’ve got IMHO the best DC in football, we’re doing pretty fricking good on the recruiting trail, to his credit, the offense under Ensminger performed better than LSU’s offense has in a decade (save the Mett-ODBJ-Landry-Hill year), we've got a ready-to-go QB and two promising young QB’s under him, we may have the best WR corps in the country, both OL and DL have been reinforced, and despite the shitty Troy loss, we won 9 games with O last year, which was actually no easy feat. There are a lot of things moving in the right direction. I say so be it, if it means winning.

If LSU wins 6 or less I just don’t see how they can spin keeping Orgeron.

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So who is gonna take the job dumb arse? Herman said no and Fisher said no twice.

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No one on here is in the position to make that decision, yourself included.


Alleva made a bad hire so if you want to get ticked off at anyone, focus on him.


"He is the search"


O has the assistants he wants, I'm assuming. The team is loaded with talent. No more excuses. He wins, people will stop being so skeptical. It's that simple.

That doesn't make much sense. LSU will owe Orgeron anyway and the difference in one year buyout between 2018 is $2.5 million which isn't that material in buyout money. If 2018 is catastrophic, you have to cut your losses with O. If the BOS doesn't want Alleva to make the next choice, then there are ways around that.
Joe Dean didn't make the call to hire Saban. Emmert did.
Also, the BOS should have a short list of AD candidates to pursue if there is serious discussion of giving Ol' Joe the boot.
Personally, I'm hoping that O has a solid enough 2018 to retain and reel in a great recruiting class. This team is not ready to compete for the SEC title for obvious reasons but, if Burrow is good, it could surprise a lot of folks.