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Any scenario - Orgeron is retained
Posted on 7/23/18 at 1:53 pm
Posted on 7/23/18 at 1:53 pm
I’m hearing from some booster friends (same that have in some instances stopped donating) that under almost any scenario, even just a 4 win season, that O will be retained.
The reasons are both practical and financial. First off, LSU is not in a position to pay Les, O and another coach (most boosters are unwilling to buy away Alexander’s problem here).
Second, LSU is not going to be in a position to have to replace an AD and a coach at the same time, which means the university has to use a search firm exclusively to make a HC hire that the new AD might not like.
So, if LSU does not fair well (9 wins is the number I’ve heard plus financials) then expect Alleva to be canned.
O would then have one year to win or he’ll be gone.
It’s a bad situation compounded by incompetence and apathy at the top. There are still a lot of pissed off boosters.
The reasons are both practical and financial. First off, LSU is not in a position to pay Les, O and another coach (most boosters are unwilling to buy away Alexander’s problem here).
Second, LSU is not going to be in a position to have to replace an AD and a coach at the same time, which means the university has to use a search firm exclusively to make a HC hire that the new AD might not like.
So, if LSU does not fair well (9 wins is the number I’ve heard plus financials) then expect Alleva to be canned.
O would then have one year to win or he’ll be gone.
It’s a bad situation compounded by incompetence and apathy at the top. There are still a lot of pissed off boosters.
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Posted on 7/23/18 at 1:56 pm to DeltaDoc
How the actual frick did Alleva give Orgeron that big of a contract. Absolute joke
Posted on 7/23/18 at 1:59 pm to DeltaDoc
I'll settle for Alleva getting the ax this year.
Posted on 7/23/18 at 2:01 pm to DeltaDoc
quote:
even just a 4 win season, that O will be retained.
if it were to get that bad, bringing O back for a lame duck season with an unrealistic goal in order to be retained would just make no sense and potentially disastrous
This post was edited on 7/23/18 at 2:02 pm
Posted on 7/23/18 at 2:02 pm to Goldrush25
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I'll settle for Alleva getting the ax this year.
Sooner rather than later.
But yeah, Doc...from a practical standpoint, all of what you say is almost certainly true. Makes me want to vomit, but it's probably the situation as it stands.
Posted on 7/23/18 at 2:02 pm to geauxtigers456
I am assuming so it doesn't look like he can easily be fired at any time. It would make it hard to hire coaches and recruit if he had a contract that would easily let him be fired in two years.
With that said Alleva could have been smarter about doing it, instead of giving O a buy out worth of a top 5 coach.
With that said Alleva could have been smarter about doing it, instead of giving O a buy out worth of a top 5 coach.
Posted on 7/23/18 at 2:02 pm to DeltaDoc
Any chance we can win 10 games but still get Alleva canned?!
This post was edited on 7/23/18 at 2:04 pm
Posted on 7/23/18 at 2:03 pm to BilJ
I wouldn't have given O a handshake as a buyout much less what our resident moron AD gave him.
Alleva is just the worst. I am throwing a party the day he's fired. Knowing our cowardly money grubbing administration, they will let him retire.
Alleva is just the worst. I am throwing a party the day he's fired. Knowing our cowardly money grubbing administration, they will let him retire.
Posted on 7/23/18 at 2:04 pm to BilJ
It actually makes a tremendous amount of sense when you look at the totality of circumstances.
Posted on 7/23/18 at 2:06 pm to DeltaDoc
If this is the current reasoning of the decision makers, it counsels for dismissal of Alleva right NOW, to leave more options open for December of 2018.
I would favor that, but I think F. King should be shown the door as well...
I would favor that, but I think F. King should be shown the door as well...
Posted on 7/23/18 at 2:06 pm to DeltaDoc
Bottom line, as long as the bottom doesnt fall out (ie we make a bowl at minimum) he will be retained and given 3 years.
If the bottom does fall out, meaning losing season, losing recruiting class, losing coaches, worst of all potentially lost some players...a change will 100% be made, no doubt in my mind. At that point, you've lost the fanbase otherwise and they cant afford that vs. paying a measly buyout.
If the bottom does fall out, meaning losing season, losing recruiting class, losing coaches, worst of all potentially lost some players...a change will 100% be made, no doubt in my mind. At that point, you've lost the fanbase otherwise and they cant afford that vs. paying a measly buyout.
Posted on 7/23/18 at 2:11 pm to DeltaDoc
Really hoping we have a good season and Alleva gets let go regardless.
Posted on 7/23/18 at 2:11 pm to geauxtigers456
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How the actual frick did Alleva give Orgeron that big of a contract. Absolute joke
He's the 29th highest paid coach. Where do you get "big contract" from that?
Posted on 7/23/18 at 2:13 pm to Goldrush25
quote:
I'll settle for Alleva getting the ax this year.
This....I think you almost have to be OK with this....unless everything turns around.
Posted on 7/23/18 at 2:13 pm to DeltaDoc
I am making notes, you better be ready to eat crow.
Posted on 7/23/18 at 2:18 pm to namvet6566
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I am making notes
No one gives a single frick.
Posted on 7/23/18 at 2:19 pm to DeltaDoc
Why start this conversation right before the season begins?
Are you from Alabama?
Are you from Alabama?
Posted on 7/23/18 at 2:22 pm to TigerMoney69
Why shouldn’t he?
Posted on 7/23/18 at 2:22 pm to thunderbird1100
The question is If LSU has a ten win season does he get a raise and extension?? I’d say no because he won’t be getting offers to leave (besides him not leaving his dream job was a reason he was hired). I’d be pissed if he got an extension until his final year.
Posted on 7/23/18 at 2:23 pm to MLCLyons
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He's the 29th highest paid coach. Where do you get "big contract" from that?
That is a huge contract considering his qualification and the fact that he was begging for the job. But what throws the contract in the stratosphere is the huge buyout...for a coach that no other team in the country has any interest in.
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