re: Any of you attend the Ryan Clark speech/rally?

Posted on 9/12/20 at 6:20 pm to TeamLSU

Posted by beauchristopher

Member since Jan 2008

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Posted on 9/12/20 at 6:20 pm to TeamLSU

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George Floyd-Once he was handcuffed and on the ground on his stomach was COMPLIANT. He simply asked the cop to get his knee off his neck. HE WAS NO THREAT at this time. Result of being compliant: DEAD

Breonna Taylor-In her own home, in her bed. No knock, plain clothes cops burst in, shoots her. She WASN'T given an opportunity TO COMPLY OR NOT. Result: DEAD

Philando Castille-Traffic stop, was asked to see Driver's License and Registration, he clearly stated to the officer he has a Conceal/Carry and Weapon is on him. Officer asked to see registration, Castille reached to get Registration, officer shoots. Result: DEAD even when he wad COMPLIANT.

Tamir Rice-12 year old in a park playing and have a TOY GUN, Officers arrive on the scene, sees the young boy with his TOY GUN, within 6 seconds of arriving on the scene, 12 year old Tamir Rice is DEAD. Wasn't given the option to COMPLY.

So all of you know it alls, tell us how we should COMPLY. And I'm speaking to the idiots that thinks it just a matter of being COMPLIANT.

I hear what you are saying.

I don't agree that not complying always means justified shooting.

However, if you can can comply then it's highly recommended. I actually had a black friend make this exact statement on his facebook. Of course it was followed up by comments of the same incidents you are mentioning here.

I had a person tell me that white people can't be afraid of the cops. I said why not, I have been taken advantage of by the police and anyone can be afraid of any person with authority and a gun. (Doesn't mean they don't still respect police.)

So then he tells me well white people don't get guns drawn on them. Well, that isn't true because as a teen I had a neighbor call the police thinking they heard a gun from my house.. so they showed up guns drawn and everything. We explained the situation of not even owning a gun and everything was fine.

I have a girlfriend whose elderly mother (wearing a heart monitor at the time) was picking up some items from an estate sale when neighbors called the police on her. I assume they thought she was stealing from the house, but police pulled up guns completely drawn on her. I think she hadn't even noticed them until it came to that. They didn't care she was old, white, and wearing a heart monitor. However, she quickly explained the situation and they called the owners and got clarification.. and she went home that night.

I feel like there will always be human error. I don't know if all of these errors are racially motivated, but perhaps some of them race does still play a role. I will concede that.

I think we all want better policing. I don't know if I agree with no knock raids. I am still open to both arguments here. I feel like body cams have helped keep a ton of accountability on both sides. I also wonder if we need to continue to explore alternative means of detaining or weapons. It seems like tasers aren't getting the job done.

There are 328 million people in the USA. I can't imagine how many interactions there are on a daily basis, but for human error and whatnot I feel like the numbers are quite low. Of course every life is precious and the ideal would be 0 deaths.

The problem is the protesting and rioting for possible justified shootings that aren't even racist like they are portrayed to be. I am not speaking on the incidents you mentioned.

Look I just hope we can continue to find alternative means to detaining, but some situations it's simply not practical. So still.. please try to comply the best you can. It certainly won't hurt your chances of surviving. I believe we all want accountability.

This post was edited on 9/12/20 at 6:20 pm