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re: An Outsiders Take on QB Situation

Posted on 12/5/11 at 3:04 pm to
Posted by 24Island
Lafayette, LA
Member since Oct 2011
46 posts
Posted on 12/5/11 at 3:04 pm to
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I would hate to live in your world. The facts really don't support your position. Was Rohan not more popular than Booty???


I live in the south. Everything comes down to race. That'll never change.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
47638 posts
Posted on 12/5/11 at 3:05 pm to
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What is the deal with the utter hate of your QBs???!!!
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I never seen a fan base turn on their own players as bad as here.
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You guys even turn on former players
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But here, you guys literally hate JJ or JL
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regardless of who you think is better, why would you turn ON YOUR OWN


Man, you know how to belabor a point! I stabbed myself with my pen after the last two.

Both JL and JJ have been criticised here and I don't think it has much to do with race. We had the best team in America last year except for the QB position. It was extremely painful to watch. You're infering the race thing from a few obnoxious posters.
Posted by Rudy40
Baton Rouge,La
Member since Jan 2007
3005 posts
Posted on 12/5/11 at 3:06 pm to
I know whether you supported Rohan, Herb, JaMarcus or numerous other African American players your a racist if you dont worship at the altar of JJ!
Posted by 24Island
Lafayette, LA
Member since Oct 2011
46 posts
Posted on 12/5/11 at 3:07 pm to
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Yes because criticizing JJ for his 25 yard total offense performance Sat nite or his 4 yards of total offense vs McNeese in 2010 or numerous other performances like that by him is no basis to criticize!


And like I mentioned before, I too was calling for Lee and a change of pace. Jefferson was really struggling. But the fact is, he's still the starting QB. He won the job. Les Miles is gonna stick with him. And I still think that there's other reason that Lee isn't playing.
Posted by dreaux
baton rouge
Member since Oct 2006
40881 posts
Posted on 12/5/11 at 3:07 pm to
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Welcome to the Rant! however - post is way too long. try again with just high points. Enjoy the board!


Then don't read it. I enjoyed the POV
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
84610 posts
Posted on 12/5/11 at 3:08 pm to
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I too was calling for Lee and a change of pace
racist
Posted by rbdallas
Dallas, TX
Member since Nov 2007
10340 posts
Posted on 12/5/11 at 3:09 pm to
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the vitriol towards JJ has no other explanation. Yeah. It has to be race right? It can't be anything to do with over throws, under throws, no throws, intentional grounding throws, sacks, decision making, or attitude. The only explanation has to be race, right?


+1

playing the RACE CARD each and every time to win an argument..does not work with me.

not only do I not care for JJ because I see limited ability, but because he put LSUs entire season at risk for selfish reasons.

there are some that will defend him based on race, not on character or ability....just as racist as those they want to attack.




Posted by andouille
A table near a waiter.
Member since Dec 2004
11131 posts
Posted on 12/5/11 at 3:10 pm to
To the OP:

I cannot ever explain the blatant stupidity of so many LSU fans. I guess they just have to have something to bitch about. We went through so many lean years I am just happy to be where we are.

It has nothing to do with race, is has something to do with the ability to string 2 cognitive thoughts together and form an intelligent opinion, the Lee bitchers find this a challenge.

We elected Edwin Edwards governor 4 times, so obviously Louisiana has its share of fools.
This post was edited on 12/5/11 at 3:15 pm
Posted by km
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
5653 posts
Posted on 12/5/11 at 3:10 pm to
Nicely written and well put. Sometimes we (LSU fans) need a reality check. Thanks.
Posted by Philosoraptor
Member since Oct 2010
4523 posts
Posted on 12/5/11 at 3:11 pm to
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he put LSUs entire season at risk for selfish reasons.


You really can't be that stupid.

The BRPD went overboard with all the shite they did for a simple bar fight.
Posted by Rudy40
Baton Rouge,La
Member since Jan 2007
3005 posts
Posted on 12/5/11 at 3:13 pm to
Actually you said your from the south and it always came down to race!
Posted by taf
Kansas City, KS
Member since Dec 2003
778 posts
Posted on 12/5/11 at 3:14 pm to
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I'm sorry man but a lot of the people that hate JJ on here and IRL are racists.


Sure. There are racists asswipes all over the country. And LA has its fair share.

But try this thought experiment:

JJ lights it up at QB. I'm not talking about adequate play. I'm talking lighting it up. Would we be having all these threads about JJ versus JL?

Also, were people yelling racial epithets at Rohan? Herb? Probably a few, but I'd bet it was rare. (I mean, how can one not like Rohan?)

People that attack JJ personally for his shortcomings on the field are dicks and cowards and should be called out. But, look, you have to admit, it can be just painful to watch the offense when he's having a bad game. I like what JJ brings to the table, and he has had some good games, but when he's off, he's off. So, I understand the frustration of many fans, and it has nothing to do with his color.

On the other hand, JL has been just OK this year as well. Good at times, but not exactly awesome. He has some things he does better than JJ, but he still has serious weaknesses. This has nothing to do with his character or him personally.

Therein lies the problem. Neither QB is a standout. Both have their good points. Both have significant weaknesses. Les has obviously chosen what he feels is best for the team. So be it.

This has been the most satisfying football season as a fan ever. Beat down after beat down administered to those most deserving.

On to New Orleans and the final beat down...
Posted by rbdallas
Dallas, TX
Member since Nov 2007
10340 posts
Posted on 12/5/11 at 3:14 pm to
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You really can't be that stupid. The BRPD went overboard with all the shite they did for a simple bar fight.


me stupid....
as blind as you are.

for starters... he broke curfew..
from that point on is all on him....

whether it serves your purpose or not.

..JJ is lucky the DA wanted a way out and everything got pleaded/worked out.

Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
43474 posts
Posted on 12/5/11 at 3:14 pm to
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From an outsider, honestly, and this is just being blunt - it appears some of you have BIG issues with race. That's sad, as we are in 2011, and it kinda reinforces stereotypes about Louisiana.



I totally agreed with you up until this. You nullified the rest of your post with this one paragraph. There is a small, albeit vocal, minority that feels that way; everyone else has their own reason for wanting either JJ or JL.

The Huskies have not had to deal with JJ/JL's ineptitude for 4 years as we have; the JJ/JL debate is a 3 year old debate, so sides are very vehement in their assertions. It has only grown worse since JL played so well through 8 games, and JJ has played well in his starts (except against Georgia). An outsiders perspective is sometimes very beneficial and helpful, but that one paragraph just really floored me.
This post was edited on 12/5/11 at 3:15 pm
Posted by UnluckyTiger
Member since Sep 2003
39560 posts
Posted on 12/5/11 at 3:15 pm to
Loved JaMarcus, can't stand JJ. Didn't like Flynn that much either.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
283502 posts
Posted on 12/5/11 at 3:15 pm to
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I live in the south. Everything comes down to race. That'll never change.





Your world is extremely small, and you need new friends.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
283502 posts
Posted on 12/5/11 at 3:18 pm to
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I totally agreed with you up until this. You nullified the rest of your post with this one paragraph. There is a small, albeit vocal, minority that feels that way; everyone else has their own reason for wanting either JJ or JL.



Right, and he stereotypes the whole fan base on this vocal minority. There are blacks who like JJ, whites who like Lee. Don't pretend it's why everyone feels they way they do when clearly there is a precedence to support this as being a fallacy.
Posted by GFunk
Denham Springs
Member since Feb 2011
14969 posts
Posted on 12/5/11 at 3:20 pm to
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I would hate to live in your world. The facts really don't support your position. Was Rohan not more popular than Booty???


Never mind. You can't convince simple minded people of anything.


If you think racism doesn't exist, & doesn't fuel stereotypes, even if its on a small scale, then you're simply deluded.

It exists-EVERYWHERE. Even within ethnic minorities, there are examples of this truism.

I'm not saying that its the driving factor behind everyone who likes Lee. That's simplification on a macro scale that's simply ill-informed & obtusely ignorant. Painting with too broad of a brush, in other words.

But don't act as if bigotry doesn't exist anymore. Because it certainly does. Regardless of the type, kind, flavor or sort.
Posted by Commando
Never Never Land
Member since Jan 2009
2814 posts
Posted on 12/5/11 at 3:22 pm to
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A lot of the hate between Lee and Jefferson is raced based sad to say


Then don't say it.

And besides that, it is complete BS. Give me RGIII, JR, Rohan, or a yellow or green QB, I just want one worth a crap.
Posted by Tiger_n_ATL
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2005
32742 posts
Posted on 12/5/11 at 3:23 pm to
truth hurts, you can't hide from it. We don't have a lot of good options at QB. I don't call them dumb, but they are not good QB's.
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