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re: An example of “doing the ordinary things extraordinary”
Posted on 9/26/23 at 10:18 am to Not Cooper
Posted on 9/26/23 at 10:18 am to Not Cooper
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I have no words for this one boss.
You don't go outside when there is already a defender with outside leverage collapsing the pocket. If Perkins reads it and goes inside it results in the sack but by going outside of Swinson he took himself out of the play.
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Posted on 9/26/23 at 10:19 am to Vacherie Saint
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Right, How on earth is Swinson supposed to know to pull up there to make space for Perk while he's fighting a 320 lb bull (and winning, for that matter)?
Unless Perkins is getting creative on his own, Swinson should know the defensive play call and pressure package that Perkins is running a stunt to his side. Once he's engaged with the OT he should know that that leaves nobody else outside.
Posted on 9/26/23 at 10:19 am to IM_4_LSU
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You don't go outside when there is already a defender with outside leverage collapsing the pocket.
I showed you the screenshot. I showed you the play call. Swinson was on the inside shoulder when perkins passed him. This isn’t on Perkins. Perkins has nothing to read on this play. It isn’t a “read option” where you pick your gap. Your responsibilities are defined by the play call.
Posted on 9/26/23 at 10:24 am to LSBoosie
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It looks like he has the tackle occupied to me. The tackle has inside leverage and just out muscles him and is able to push him back into Perk. The offensive tackle didn't "pick up" the defensive tackle in this case which you are saying is Perk.
Swinson's initial job is to crash inside to take the LT with him to allow a free lane for Perkins to come around. I think we can ALL agree with that.
The OP sees the play as Swinson continuing to (erroneously) work upfield. I see a guy (Swinson) who is taking his guy (LT) inside and creating the lane for Perkins...until the LT turns Swinson and blows him outside into Perkins.
Again, we can agree to disagree. That's fine. But the more I watch the more I think this was just a good play by the LT. Those guys were recruited and on scholarship too.
Posted on 9/26/23 at 10:27 am to The Pirate King
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The Pirate King
I’m not going to RA you for your incessant trolling/negative comments mainly because I think people that RA are bitches and I generally disagree with banning by the admins.
But I would not be mad at all if your arse got fricking banned. You suck.
Posted on 9/26/23 at 10:35 am to Alt26
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But the more I watch the more I think this was just a good play by the LT
At the end of the play, yes. He did drive Swinson out of there. But even on that second screenshot. His helmet is inside the helmet of the LT. He’s got leverage. Keep working inside! I can’t tell you the specific protection but most times a tackle will either pass you off to the guard or let you take him inside. When you see the set up man get a sack from a stunt it’s almost always because there was a miscommunication when passing off from one lineman to another. The coaching point there will be to keep working inside.
Posted on 9/26/23 at 10:37 am to Not Cooper
Great post. Thanks for the breakdown.
Posted on 9/26/23 at 10:40 am to IM_4_LSU
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You don't go outside when there is already a defender with outside leverage collapsing the pocket. If Perkins reads it and goes inside it results in the sack but by going outside of Swinson he took himself out of the play.
The play design is not for Perkins to just pick any gap he chooses. The play design is for Swinson squeeze the LT into the B gap while Perkins brushes off of his arse. This gives us a free rusher to the outside while also closing off the rush lane up the middle. Swinson didn’t do his job. If Perkins is allowed to just pick any gap he chooses then nobody would know what their job is.
Idk how many times it needs to be explained in this thread.
Posted on 9/26/23 at 10:42 am to classicgold
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Perkins is allowed to just pick any gap he chooses then nobody would know what their job is. Idk how many times it needs to be explained in this thread.
We have invented the LB read option today
Posted on 9/26/23 at 10:44 am to Not Cooper
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Swinson was on the inside shoulder when perkins passed him.
Perkins made his move to go outside when Swinson made a move inside yes, but he didn't pass him until he was in outside leverage whether that be due to a second move or by the LT correcting his block. Perkins was actually right next to Swinson when they were both in outside leverage, Perkins should have pealed inside at that moment.
Posted on 9/26/23 at 10:44 am to Not Cooper
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We have invented the LB read option today
That is not what happened.
Posted on 9/26/23 at 10:45 am to IM_4_LSU
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Perkins made his move to go outside when Swinson made a move inside yes, but he didn't pass him until he was in outside leverage whether that be due to a second move or by the LT correcting his block. Perkins was actually right next to Swinson when they were both in outside leverage, Perkins should have pealed inside at that moment.
I can’t even begin to explain how wrong this is
Posted on 9/26/23 at 10:46 am to IM_4_LSU
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That is not what happened.
Exactly, because what you are describing does not exist
Posted on 9/26/23 at 10:49 am to Not Cooper
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Exactly, because what you are describing does not exist
No one invented the "Linebacker read option." Or said that is what the play was.
Posted on 9/26/23 at 10:50 am to IM_4_LSU
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No one invented the "Linebacker read option." Or said that is what the play was.
You said, and I quote:
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If Perkins reads it
Posted on 9/26/23 at 10:52 am to Not Cooper
I guarantee that his job was not to try and get blocked. What if they picked up Perkins, was he just supposed to not try to get to the QB.
Posted on 9/26/23 at 10:54 am to tigerfan23333
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I guarantee that his job was not to try and get blocked.
It is his job. This whole play is designed to try to allow perkins to come in unblocked. That means he has to occupy the guy who could block perkins.
Posted on 9/26/23 at 10:55 am to Not Cooper
You are taking shite out of context. Any defender has "reads" or "keys" and you "read" a play.
Posted on 9/26/23 at 10:56 am to The Pirate King
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This is not an issue limited to this year or these players, which means it’s coaching.
This is logically false, and borderline retarded.
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