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All-Time LSU Baseball Team
Posted on 4/18/18 at 12:22 pm
Posted on 4/18/18 at 12:22 pm
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NCAA.com posted this and I didn't see it posted. What are everyone's thoughts? Agree with the team? Who would you remove and add?
NCAA.com posted this and I didn't see it posted. What are everyone's thoughts? Agree with the team? Who would you remove and add?
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Posted on 4/18/18 at 12:27 pm to Jeaux Cool
Only problem I have is you have some really good SS's that are left off.
Dunn at 3B seems like the only one that doesn't belong.
You almost have to take more than one SS to justify a Dunn selection. Tough to leave off a Jason Williams or Alex Bregman or Russ Johnson or Ryan Theriot or Andy Sheets who were all much better defensive shortstops than Larson.
Dunn at 3B seems like the only one that doesn't belong.
You almost have to take more than one SS to justify a Dunn selection. Tough to leave off a Jason Williams or Alex Bregman or Russ Johnson or Ryan Theriot or Andy Sheets who were all much better defensive shortstops than Larson.
Posted on 4/18/18 at 12:27 pm to Jeaux Cool
P- McDonald
C- Cresse
1B- Furniss
2B- Walker
SS- Larson
3B- Dunn
LF- Dean
CF- Mahtook
RF- Mouton
Coach- Skip
This is the list from the link.
C- Cresse
1B- Furniss
2B- Walker
SS- Larson
3B- Dunn
LF- Dean
CF- Mahtook
RF- Mouton
Coach- Skip
This is the list from the link.
This post was edited on 4/18/18 at 12:28 pm
Posted on 4/18/18 at 12:30 pm to Jeaux Cool
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Third base – Nathan Dunn (1994-96)
Dunn is the only LSU third baseman to ever be named an All-American. He set the LSU single-season runs scored record with 95 in 1996, when the Tigers won the national championship, while recording 81 RBI (10th-best single-season total in LSU history) and 182 total bases (eighth-best).
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Left field – Blake Dean (2007-10)
Man, deciding the all-time left fielder for LSU baseball was no easy task. It's tough to leave out Raph Rhymes, who led the NCAA with a .431 batting average in 2012 that is 21 points higher than the second-best individual average ever by a Tigers play. It's hard to look past a two-time national champion in Chad Cooley, who's in the top 10 in LSU history in career doubles, RBI, total bases and steals.
What about Wes Grisham, the two-time First Team All-SEC selection and 1990 All-American, who the SEC in hits, triples and RBI in 1989? Or Ryan Patterson, the 2005 First Team All-American who hit .353 in his LSU career with 50 homers and 174 RBI?
They could have done a DH and put Dean there
Trey McClure at 3B.
Joey Belle in LF.
This post was edited on 4/18/18 at 12:32 pm
Posted on 4/18/18 at 12:43 pm to Jeaux Cool
Bregs at SS, especially with current bats and no supplements.
Posted on 4/18/18 at 12:48 pm to nicholastiger
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You almost have to take more than one SS to justify a Dunn selection. Tough to leave off a Jason Williams or Alex Bregman or Russ Johnson or Ryan Theriot or Andy Sheets who were all much better defensive shortstops than Larson.
I'd give it to Blair Barbier or Trey McClure before Nathan Dunn. You also could make a slight argument to just plug Aaron Hill there since he started 10 or so games at 3B his junior year.
As to Dean being in the OF, I'd put him at DH and put Belle in the OF instead.
This post was edited on 4/18/18 at 12:51 pm
Posted on 4/18/18 at 12:51 pm to lsufball19
Or Russ Johnson
Posted on 4/18/18 at 12:52 pm to ell_13
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Or Russ Johnson
he played third in the majors, but did he ever start at third here? I know he started at SS but can't remember if he ever started at third
Posted on 4/18/18 at 12:54 pm to lsufball19
I don't really like Larson being the SS on the list. He only played one year here. As good as we've been at the position, I'd rather not honor the guy whose chief claim to fame is hitting the second most home runs in his one year in the NCAA.
Recency bias is probably strong in this but I'd say Bregman over Larson.
Todd Walker and Eddy Furniss are not debatable. The OF seems to be a little too heavy on recent players.
Recency bias is probably strong in this but I'd say Bregman over Larson.
Todd Walker and Eddy Furniss are not debatable. The OF seems to be a little too heavy on recent players.
Posted on 4/18/18 at 12:55 pm to Jeaux Cool
Hard to argue a lot with the list. Maybe I’d have Bregman over Larson...but otherwise solid.
Posted on 4/18/18 at 12:59 pm to ProjectP2294
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Recency bias is probably strong in this but I'd say Bregman over Larson.
If we're to take the totality of a career, Russ Johnson, Aaron Hill, and Jason Williams have an argument for SS. Hill's and Bregman's career numbers an accolades are almost identical. Jason Williams was the all-time hits leader when he finished playing. Russ Johnson hit .410 his junior season and was a career .367 hitter. We have been very blessed at the SS position. And this doesn't even include guys like Austin Nola Ryan Theriot, and Andy Sheets.
This post was edited on 4/18/18 at 2:42 pm
Posted on 4/18/18 at 1:16 pm to lsufball19
Bregman and Belle are conspicuously absent.
Posted on 4/18/18 at 1:47 pm to Jeaux Cool
With the exception of Mahtook... there is a definite stats bias that is the result of the Gorilla Ball era. Not saying those guys weren't phenomenal, because they were, but their stats are grotesque due to the bats in use at the time.
Posted on 4/18/18 at 1:50 pm to lsufball19
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he played third in the majors, but did he ever start at third here?
I think he played 3rd his final season
Posted on 4/18/18 at 1:56 pm to Jeaux Cool
That's a darn good representation of all time greats.
The fact so many good players are missing is a testament to the strength of the program.
Unlike some, I think Nathan Dunn belongs.
The fact so many good players are missing is a testament to the strength of the program.
Unlike some, I think Nathan Dunn belongs.
Posted on 4/18/18 at 1:56 pm to Jeaux Cool
Mike Koerner should be considered, I feel like the outfield could have multiple guys.
This post was edited on 4/18/18 at 1:58 pm
Posted on 4/18/18 at 2:24 pm to 610man
Different eras with #1 the bats that were lethal in the mid 90's until they got to BBCOR
Plus the unlimited rosters where LSU could sign a lot more kids, especially pitchers, that's arms they didn't have to face that would end up at other programs. That had just as much an effect on offense as anything else.
Yeah, there was creatine and PED's in college game but not near as much as what was going on in MLB at the time. Swinging that aluminum created more offense than anything else.
Plus the unlimited rosters where LSU could sign a lot more kids, especially pitchers, that's arms they didn't have to face that would end up at other programs. That had just as much an effect on offense as anything else.
Yeah, there was creatine and PED's in college game but not near as much as what was going on in MLB at the time. Swinging that aluminum created more offense than anything else.
Posted on 4/18/18 at 2:25 pm to nicholastiger
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Plus the unlimited rosters where LSU could sign a lot more kids, especially pitchers, that's arms they didn't have to face that would end up at other programs. That had just as much an effect on offense as anything else.
Posted on 4/18/18 at 2:31 pm to TigerintheNO
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I think he played 3rd his final season
he was an AA at SS in his final season here (1994)
Posted on 4/18/18 at 2:34 pm to SaturdayTraditions
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With the exception of Mahtook... there is a definite stats bias that is the result of the Gorilla Ball era. Not saying those guys weren't phenomenal, because they were, but their stats are grotesque due to the bats in use at the time.
every single guy on the list was an all-american with the exception of Mouton, meaning they were the top player at their position in the year they played, so they won over other guys with the same advantages. Everyone but Larson was an elite player during his era for multiple seasons, with several of them being in the college baseball HOF. I just don't think the stat bias is really all that applicable here. If that's all this list entailed, the entire team would be comprised of players between 1996-1998. And it's not.
This post was edited on 4/18/18 at 2:43 pm
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