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re: Aiden Moffett portal?

Posted on 6/5/24 at 6:11 pm to
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
290814 posts
Posted on 6/5/24 at 6:11 pm to
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You can make a very good argument that this years staff was better than last year, a



They should have been. We shouldn't even have to argue it lol.

Jump, Holman and Hurd will all go in the top 100 picks.

People will be shocked how high Little and Ulloa go.

cam Johnson turned down a ton of money to come to LSU.

And Herring was pitched well enough to be the team MVP.


I wont even get into my thoughts regarding Anderson and Hellmers but you saw what they could do in flashes.
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
25456 posts
Posted on 6/5/24 at 6:24 pm to
quote:

let's keep the guy who throws 98 and strikes


His entire problem at LSU was not throwing strikes.
Posted by LouisianaLonghorn
Austin, Texas
Member since Jan 2006
15876 posts
Posted on 6/5/24 at 6:44 pm to
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Forever LSU. Uhh..not really Aiden.


Agree. He's not Forever LSU if he's transferring somewhere else.

That's not how it works.
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
30732 posts
Posted on 6/5/24 at 6:55 pm to
TAMU
Posted by FulshearTexasTiger
Fulshear, TX
Member since Jan 2011
1831 posts
Posted on 6/5/24 at 6:58 pm to
He should.
Posted by jrobic4
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
13219 posts
Posted on 6/5/24 at 7:09 pm to
quote:

Forever LSU


Ummmm...

Is Jay nudging him out or is this decision?
Posted by VeryReauxna_ish
Your mom’s house
Member since Dec 2020
3239 posts
Posted on 6/5/24 at 7:15 pm to
Hellmers should have pitched more innings. Teams only hit 0.183 off of him.
Posted by notbilly
alter
Member since Sep 2015
7116 posts
Posted on 6/5/24 at 7:20 pm to
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But wait, people were really satisfied with the pitching this year?



We lost Skenes and improved overall. That ain't bad.

In the SEC pitching this year...
#1 in K's
#2 in HRs allowed
#3 in opponent's BA
#5 in ERA and it's a good dropoff to #6.

The main problem with this staff was BBs (#13 SEC) which seemed to improve towards the end of the season.

Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
18895 posts
Posted on 6/5/24 at 7:20 pm to
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I wont even get into my thoughts regarding Anderson and Hellmers but you saw what they could do in flashes.

I am curious to your thoughts on these two. Do you think they should have pitched more or were misused? You don’t have to go into detail that comment just made me curious as to which side you are on.
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
30732 posts
Posted on 6/5/24 at 7:23 pm to
quote:

In the SEC pitching this year... #1 in K's #2 in HRs allowed #3 in opponent's BA #5 in ERA and it's a good dropoff to #6. The main problem with this staff was BBs (#13 SEC) which seemed to improve towards the end of the season.

Jump was really learning how to pitch well into the season. His coming on was massive.
Errors also were cut down a bit which kills your pitching.

They played cleaner baseball. Makes the job of the pitcher easier. Plus their schedule was easier.
Posted by lsu711
Member since Sep 2003
15292 posts
Posted on 6/5/24 at 7:25 pm to
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Hellmers should have pitched more innings. Teams only hit 0.183 off of him.

.381 in SEC games.

He pitched out of his mind in his last ever outing. And that is how he’ll be remembered which is awesome. I don’t think you can blame the staff for missing the eval.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42595 posts
Posted on 6/5/24 at 7:31 pm to
quote:

I wont even get into my thoughts regarding Anderson and Hellmers but you saw what they could do in flashes.


Yes, we had a great staff when each pitcher pitched their best. They all have talent, but no one pitches their best all the time.

The best ones are the most consistent.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42595 posts
Posted on 6/5/24 at 7:34 pm to
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In the SEC pitching this year... #1 in K's #2 in HRs allowed #3 in opponent's BA #5 in ERA and it's a good dropoff to #6.


But people here say hardly any one improved. Most stayed the same or got worse. When you post hard stats like you did the start BS about what everyone expected.
Posted by Shooter
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
9194 posts
Posted on 6/5/24 at 7:36 pm to
Processed
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
290814 posts
Posted on 6/5/24 at 7:40 pm to
Anderson pitched well early as a starter, and once the competition picked up, they tried to make him a high leverage reliever. In his 1st or 2nd appearance, they brought him in to face a LH, and the manager (either Miss St or FL) subbed in a RH and had a huge hit against. Basically every other time he was put in the middle of an inning, he bombed.

The one of the games he started at the end of the season, he had some very very weak contact that beat LSU's shift, and he was yanked in the 1st or 2nd inning.

He was juggled back and forth and imo he should have never been tried as a reliever, though he finished the year well there. He should have continued to be developed as a starter.


Hellmers very early on showed he had a velo uptick, hitting 94 consistently. HE shouldnt have been the closer, but should have pitched more. To their benefit I guess, he was up a lot warming up and never saw the field.
Posted by SoloTiger
Member since Aug 2016
10882 posts
Posted on 6/5/24 at 7:41 pm to
I hope Moffett reconsiders, but he obviously wants more innings. USM would make sense given how close Mount Olive is to Hattiesburg. You could also do a lot worse than being tutored by Ostrander. I'm sure they would love to get their hands on him.
Posted by otowntiger
O-Town
Member since Jan 2004
16919 posts
Posted on 6/5/24 at 7:42 pm to
Ironic to say ‘Forever LSU’ right after stating you are leaving LSU. Clearly just ‘temporary LSU’
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
290814 posts
Posted on 6/5/24 at 7:47 pm to
quote:

In the SEC pitching this year...
#1 in K's
#2 in HRs allowed
#3 in opponent's BA
#5 in ERA and it's a good dropoff to #6.



in SEC games only

ERA 6th


Sounds great until you realize only 6 teams in league play had a winning record, including all 5 ahead of LSU in ERA.

LSU, on paper had at the very least, one of the top 3 most talented pitching rosters in the SEC. If not the best
Posted by ItTakesAThief
Scottsdale, Arizona
Member since Dec 2009
10742 posts
Posted on 6/5/24 at 7:49 pm to
We have to quit looking at raw power and also covet guys who have control and can pitch.

We have several guys with power who have never contributed because they have no control
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
18895 posts
Posted on 6/5/24 at 8:07 pm to
quote:

He was juggled back and forth and imo he should have never been tried as a reliever, though he finished the year well there. He should have continued to be developed as a starter.

I think I agree with you here. I think he would have benefited from just being a midweek starter all year long, but I understand why they would want to try him on the weekend.
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Hellmers very early on showed he had a velo uptick, hitting 94 consistently. HE shouldnt have been the closer, but should have pitched more. To their benefit I guess, he was up a lot warming up and never saw the field.

I thought it was weird when they started to used Dutton more. I was surprised Hellmers wasn’t getting those innings.
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