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re: Again... Braxton Miller
Posted on 12/12/14 at 12:53 pm to NashvilleTiger09
Posted on 12/12/14 at 12:53 pm to NashvilleTiger09
Jesus Christ. Unless we are going to actually implement a spread option offense, Miller would be just as bad as our current QBs.
He is a great athlete but would not be good in our current system.
He is a great athlete but would not be good in our current system.
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Posted on 12/12/14 at 12:53 pm to NashvilleTiger09
Similar play calls my arse
Posted on 12/12/14 at 12:53 pm to NashvilleTiger09
How is it similar play calls? Osu gets in shotgun. We pack in tight and toss it back to the RB
This post was edited on 12/12/14 at 12:54 pm
Posted on 12/12/14 at 12:56 pm to NashvilleTiger09
Just stop. Is LSU going to change their offense to fit was Miller was running at OSU? I highly doubt it. Plus, don't you have to ask yourself "is he really a great QB? Or is he someone who just flourishes in Urban Meyer's offense?" He goes down for the year and OSU doesn't miss a beat with it's back up. The back up is lost for the year, and the third string guy who has never started a game comes in to a spot with everything on the line and demolishes Wisc.
Just because he is a senior who has played very well at one place doesn't mean he can come into LSU and duplicate that performance. LSU and OSU are night and day in their offensive approach. So unless LSU is planning to run an offense that fits him (like they didn't do with Harris or Jennings except on a few occasions brought on by necessity), then that kid would be wasting his last year of eligibility by coming to LSU.
Just because he is a senior who has played very well at one place doesn't mean he can come into LSU and duplicate that performance. LSU and OSU are night and day in their offensive approach. So unless LSU is planning to run an offense that fits him (like they didn't do with Harris or Jennings except on a few occasions brought on by necessity), then that kid would be wasting his last year of eligibility by coming to LSU.
This post was edited on 12/12/14 at 12:57 pm
Posted on 12/12/14 at 1:03 pm to Alt26
anything is better than what we have so why not?
Posted on 12/12/14 at 1:06 pm to NashvilleTiger09
2016 is setting up to be our great QB class ever. Don't want to jinx it.
Posted on 12/12/14 at 1:07 pm to TIGRLEE
What's up, Tiger Rant? You guys are actually referring to the article I wrote. My name is Murf Baldwin and I write for Saturday Down South...
If LSU wants to a chance to maximize its potential, bringing in a veteran with a ton of accolades isn't a bad idea. It worked out well for the Wisconsin Badgers with Russell Wilson who had similar accolades at NC State before transferring.
As I mentioned, I'm sure there were some who would've said why bring in a QB for one year because LSU has Russell Shepard?! You have to be wary of Miles' decision to continually go to Jennings when he, too, is an underclassman. That means Harris isn't gaining the respect of him in practice...and his performance in some games backs that up...
As for the people saying something about "similar plays," I don't remember saying that in the piece. A lot of the concepts are similar as OSU has a vertical passing philosophy -- like Cam Cameron has had since forever -- and they have some parts of the rushing attack that has been adopted for college; sure LSU is a pro-style offense, in theory, but Cam adjusted the hek out of his scheme since Baltimore/SD/Miami to fit the lack of QB acumen.
But Miller needs some time under center delivering the ball and performing back-to-d play-action if he wants a chance to play in the NFL...
But hey guys, thanks for reading and thanks for discussing.
If LSU wants to a chance to maximize its potential, bringing in a veteran with a ton of accolades isn't a bad idea. It worked out well for the Wisconsin Badgers with Russell Wilson who had similar accolades at NC State before transferring.
As I mentioned, I'm sure there were some who would've said why bring in a QB for one year because LSU has Russell Shepard?! You have to be wary of Miles' decision to continually go to Jennings when he, too, is an underclassman. That means Harris isn't gaining the respect of him in practice...and his performance in some games backs that up...
As for the people saying something about "similar plays," I don't remember saying that in the piece. A lot of the concepts are similar as OSU has a vertical passing philosophy -- like Cam Cameron has had since forever -- and they have some parts of the rushing attack that has been adopted for college; sure LSU is a pro-style offense, in theory, but Cam adjusted the hek out of his scheme since Baltimore/SD/Miami to fit the lack of QB acumen.
But Miller needs some time under center delivering the ball and performing back-to-d play-action if he wants a chance to play in the NFL...
But hey guys, thanks for reading and thanks for discussing.
This post was edited on 12/12/14 at 1:14 pm
Posted on 12/12/14 at 1:13 pm to SECisKing
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I'm sure there were some who would've said why bring in a QB for one year because LSU has Russell Shepard?!
:wat?:
Posted on 12/12/14 at 1:13 pm to LSUTIGERS8181
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anything is better than what we have
really, anything? lol
I think Brandon Harris has way more upside than Braxton Miller.
Posted on 12/12/14 at 1:16 pm to tigerfan in bamaland
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I think Brandon Harris has way more upside than Braxton Miller.
Miller has a rocket attached to his arm but he always thinks he needs to use it. He has not developed touch on the intermediate throws but can throw a very good deep ball
I can't imagine he could hurt LSU next year, but I understand concern for the longer term since he's a 1 year clot to the problem
Posted on 12/12/14 at 1:17 pm to GeauxTigers2007
C'mon man...
One of the guys said "why bring in a QB for one year because we have Brandon Harris."
I was responding to that...It means you just don't know if Harris will ever get to the point that Braxton Miller is at. That LSU team is way too talented to have struggles at the QB position. It's a team talented enough to win it all next season. Better maximize your potential while you can. These other teams in the SEC are doing whatever it takes...
One of the guys said "why bring in a QB for one year because we have Brandon Harris."
I was responding to that...It means you just don't know if Harris will ever get to the point that Braxton Miller is at. That LSU team is way too talented to have struggles at the QB position. It's a team talented enough to win it all next season. Better maximize your potential while you can. These other teams in the SEC are doing whatever it takes...
Posted on 12/12/14 at 1:17 pm to tigerfan in bamaland
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I think Harris is more than capable. Why get him, when it means Harris on the sideline for another season? What Harris needs is snaps. Only one way to get them. Just my opinion
I think Harris is just as capable, but I also have very little doubt that Miles is going to start Jennings again.
Bringing in Miller and then sitting him behind Jennings would be suicide (unless Miller was just beyond awful)..
But the rant says he "doesn't fit our system" as well as Jennings does..
Posted on 12/12/14 at 1:19 pm to Buckeye06
If that one year clot brought you a title, would it be a bad thing? Blake Sims won't be playing for Bama next season, but if he leads them to a natty -- it would be worth playing him over Coker, Cornwell and Bateman...
Posted on 12/12/14 at 1:19 pm to tigerfan in bamaland
Braxton is a proven commodity. LSU doesn't have one at this point. I have no idea if any interest exist between either party.
This post was edited on 12/12/14 at 1:21 pm
Posted on 12/12/14 at 1:23 pm to SECisKing
It's an interesting concept, and worth discussing.
B Miller should be able to come in and run the same offense LSU ran this year, but it's not going to be anything close to OSU. And it should be marginally better.
The risk is, the next year comes (2016) and Harris STILL hasnt received meaningful playing time to grow into what everyone thinks he CAN be.
Most people on this board feel that Harris can ultimately be a top notch QB. It's the system that everyone has no faith in.
In the end, LSU would be better in 2015 with Braxton Miller, than without him.
B Miller should be able to come in and run the same offense LSU ran this year, but it's not going to be anything close to OSU. And it should be marginally better.
The risk is, the next year comes (2016) and Harris STILL hasnt received meaningful playing time to grow into what everyone thinks he CAN be.
Most people on this board feel that Harris can ultimately be a top notch QB. It's the system that everyone has no faith in.
In the end, LSU would be better in 2015 with Braxton Miller, than without him.
This post was edited on 12/12/14 at 1:26 pm
Posted on 12/12/14 at 1:25 pm to Alt26
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Just stop. Is LSU going to change their offense to fit was Miller was running at OSU?
LSU wouldn't have to change a thing. Cameron didn't run his Baltimore Ravens offense last season like he did the previous year with Mettenberger...He showed a lot of different concepts to fit his personnel...
And the actual passing concepts looked a lot like what you see at OSU now. I'm not going to ask if someone is a great QB because others around him performed well in his stead. Does Blake Sims' success erase what A.J. McCarron did?
Kenny Hill picked up where Johnny Manziel left off, doesn't take anything away from Johnny Football in my eyes.
But hey, we're all entitled to our opinions. If Harris is the man, more to power to ya.
Posted on 12/12/14 at 1:26 pm to SECisKing
Harris is definitely capable, but he is clearly still struggling. Braxton Miller has lightyears more experience reading defenses and playing big time college football. I don't get the argument for long term growth. For starters it could probably help him to learn from a QB that is very similar to him, in Braxton Miller. Secondly, why do you care about his long term growth? The obvious answer is so that we can win championships in the future. So why waste the opportunity to get a championship next year? I say you bring him in, it really can't hurt you.
And to the guy that wrote this article, you keep mentioning Russel Shepard and I don't know why. It became clear after fall practice of his freshman year that he would never play QB here
And to the guy that wrote this article, you keep mentioning Russel Shepard and I don't know why. It became clear after fall practice of his freshman year that he would never play QB here
Posted on 12/12/14 at 1:28 pm to SECisKing
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If LSU wants to a chance to maximize its potential, bringing in a veteran with a ton of accolades isn't a bad idea. It worked out well for the Wisconsin Badgers with Russell Wilson who had similar accolades at NC State before transferring.
That's great and all
But a player has to have two years of eligibility remaining before he transfers into the SEC.
Does Braxton? By my count, no he does not.
Posted on 12/12/14 at 1:28 pm to SportTiger1
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The risk is, the next year comes (2016) and Harris STILL hasnt received meaningful playing time to grow into what everyone thinks he CAN be.
Suppose Harris is Russell Shepard? Seriously. Suppose he never cuts it as a full-time QB? Suppose Jennings starts for four years and eventually LSU recruits another hot shot recruit and Harris never plays?
These are real questions. Jennings had some stinkers and Harris still collected splinters in his butt. I hope they all succeed, but you just never know...
Posted on 12/12/14 at 1:31 pm to SECisKing
But Braxton doesn't have two years of eligibility remaining.
This post was edited on 12/12/14 at 1:33 pm
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