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SECisKing
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| Location: | Atlanta, GA |
| Biography: | Scheme/Personnel analyst for Saturday Down South |
| Interests: | If it ain't football it ain't me |
| Occupation: | Sports writer/talk show host |
| Number of Posts: | 126 |
| Registered on: | 11/7/2014 |
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We already know Harris' arm strength is elite and I showed him throwing a deep pass. I pointed out that it was hard to evaluate him as most of his passes were of the aggressive variety. Showing a bunch of deeps passes would've been boring as hell.
I even showed a quick-game throw when it really went nowhere just to show variation. I already knew I wasn't going to appease a few of you because you read that I like Jennings from high school.
But not once did I say he should start nor did he even get the benefit of having his name in the title lol. Harris got that benefit with me pointing out how his arm strength and wheels could lead the most explosive attack in the league.
Not sure how biased I could be. Hell I even left out the actual turnover he threw when some of you are wanting me to talk about a turnover Jennings almost had lol.
Was this not read?
I even gave him the benefit of the doubt on not really moving the team in the quick game. I would've rather seen Harris play in the offense Jennings did and vice versa as I believe I didn't learn much.
I can say I learned that Jennings is working on his mechanics. I challenge you to show me some good mechanics, or patience, from Harris. It might not be his game but he's very effective and explosive regardless. Jennings NEEDS proper mechanics as he's not as explosive and can't improvise as well.
I'm not biased in my evaluation; never once said I don't like Harris -- because I do. But once again, I gotta bounce lol. If I miss my deadlines I'm blaming y'all and I better be provided with a place to sleep when I can't pay my rent too! haha
I even showed a quick-game throw when it really went nowhere just to show variation. I already knew I wasn't going to appease a few of you because you read that I like Jennings from high school.
But not once did I say he should start nor did he even get the benefit of having his name in the title lol. Harris got that benefit with me pointing out how his arm strength and wheels could lead the most explosive attack in the league.
Not sure how biased I could be. Hell I even left out the actual turnover he threw when some of you are wanting me to talk about a turnover Jennings almost had lol.
Was this not read?
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In this particular scrimmage, it seemed as though a totally different game was called for the two QBs. It’s almost hard to effectively evaluate Harris as just about everything called for him was aggressive in nature (at least when he ran with the starters).
I even gave him the benefit of the doubt on not really moving the team in the quick game. I would've rather seen Harris play in the offense Jennings did and vice versa as I believe I didn't learn much.
I can say I learned that Jennings is working on his mechanics. I challenge you to show me some good mechanics, or patience, from Harris. It might not be his game but he's very effective and explosive regardless. Jennings NEEDS proper mechanics as he's not as explosive and can't improvise as well.
I'm not biased in my evaluation; never once said I don't like Harris -- because I do. But once again, I gotta bounce lol. If I miss my deadlines I'm blaming y'all and I better be provided with a place to sleep when I can't pay my rent too! haha
re: Film Study: LSU QB Harris could lead most explosive offense in SEC
Posted by SECisKing on 6/18/15 at 11:54 am to Nix to Twillie
Nix, I appreciate ya challenging me, too. I don't mind as I don't consider myself to be bigger than anyone despite being a full-time writer. I'm up for a debate any time as long as we can keep it cordial like you did. So props to you and we'll continue to disagree. (Although I'm confused as to what we're disagreeing about as I said I like Harris and he'd lead the most explosive attack in the conference.)
But we must agree that the Tigers are super talented and either QB has the weapons to get the job done now that the targets have more experience.
Thanks you, my man. I gotta bounce.
But we must agree that the Tigers are super talented and either QB has the weapons to get the job done now that the targets have more experience.
Thanks you, my man. I gotta bounce.
re: Film Study: LSU QB Harris could lead most explosive offense in SEC
Posted by SECisKing on 6/18/15 at 11:47 am to okietiger13
lol, I'm a man of the people. I respond to anyone who takes the time out to read my work. I work really hard on these so I don't mind debating with the readers, either. It's fun to me as I'm not going to take it that serious because I know how fans are.
I really like this board so not answering now, would look strange when I always answer anyway.
I appreciate ya though, Okie!
I really like this board so not answering now, would look strange when I always answer anyway.
I appreciate ya though, Okie!
re: Film Study: LSU QB Harris could lead most explosive offense in SEC
Posted by SECisKing on 6/18/15 at 11:43 am to Nix to Twillie
Huh? Nitpick about Harris' technique while he still made the play? He didn't make the play because he didn't throw the ball; he improvised.
Nitpicking is not pointing out in that play that DIarse ran parallel to the LOS while Jennings threw it as if he were going to catch it in stride as he had blocking in front of him; Jennings led him upfield which is what most would've done.
That's a miscommunication. I merely pointed out Harris' first intention is to run as he trusts his legs more than his eyes now. You're making it out like I harped and harped on it when I used it as a positive in showing his other weapons that distinguish him.
Bro, we're going to have to agree to disagree because I have to bounce and don't want to leave you hanging.
There's no debate and I never said I would start Jennings over Harris. I actually said Harris could lead the most explosive attack in the SEC and you're still bent out of shape. haha
Peace, man.
Nitpicking is not pointing out in that play that DIarse ran parallel to the LOS while Jennings threw it as if he were going to catch it in stride as he had blocking in front of him; Jennings led him upfield which is what most would've done.
That's a miscommunication. I merely pointed out Harris' first intention is to run as he trusts his legs more than his eyes now. You're making it out like I harped and harped on it when I used it as a positive in showing his other weapons that distinguish him.
Bro, we're going to have to agree to disagree because I have to bounce and don't want to leave you hanging.
There's no debate and I never said I would start Jennings over Harris. I actually said Harris could lead the most explosive attack in the SEC and you're still bent out of shape. haha
Peace, man.
re: Film Study: LSU QB Harris could lead most explosive offense in SEC
Posted by SECisKing on 6/18/15 at 11:37 am to Nix to Twillie
Uh dude, Harris threw an interception as he was locked-in on a target going deep...Did I even mention it? NOPE because it wasn't a part of what I was getting at.
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I was really looking forward to this article from you but I really only learned that you think Harris would flourish in "Cheetah" sets. I really disliked the whole first 25% of the article rehashing your AJ bias, as I'd already read your AJ breakdown.
First rule of journalism: Never assume your audience has read your work. I guarantee you there were thousands of people who never read the first article so calling something part 2 and not rehashing some of part 1 is bad journalism.
I write with impression that any article will go way past my readership of the previous article. And let's be real; some won't read and will only skim. That's the nature of the business.
And I'm not sure what bias was presented in the article when I broke down film. It wasn't an opinion piece, per se. Harris was in Cheetah sets just about all the time he was in the game, especially with the starters.
Jennings was in "U" personnel and under center more. That's not an opinion, those are facts.
If Cam decides to start Harris and runs the same stuff he did in the spring game, then would it be bias on my part? Or would it be e evaluating what I saw?
But I appreciate your time and the props. And I agree with a great deal of your post.
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Faith is believing without seeing, so I guess you deserve some points there. But I might as well be from Missouri - SHOW ME.
Uhhh this was a spring game study, 95. He, Jennings, did just that in the spring game. I can only evaluate what's put in front of me.
If you're from the Show Me State and he showed you that in the spring game, you may want to change your residency lol.
We will reevaluate when we're provided with more examples -- during the season.
re: Film Study: LSU QB Harris could lead most explosive offense in SEC
Posted by SECisKing on 6/18/15 at 11:25 am to Nix to Twillie
He also hit a couple of perfect screen passes, one to D-Will went for a sizeable gain. So would you have liked me to focus on a screen pass miss when he hit on the same exact play in the same game?
And it was a focused article/section called "Quick-game/mechanical improvements." I was focused on his progression scans, footwork and understanding of when to bolt the pocket.
I wasn't focused on every little nuance to appease you not liking Jennings and loving Harris. And in the Harris article I focused on what makes him difference and how that can be a positive.
You're focusing on something a blowing it up way out of proportion. I even said judging him off the Auburn game is dumb as if we are all held to our initial offering in life.
We are talking about two QBs on a football team, right? And not two women from the club the other night. You're going much too hard for something that ain't that serious. And this is coming from someone who feeds their family from writing lol.
Both have potential and both need work -- as this was just a spring game. But both have the ability to improve and both will improve as they gain experience.
You feel me, Nix?
And it was a focused article/section called "Quick-game/mechanical improvements." I was focused on his progression scans, footwork and understanding of when to bolt the pocket.
I wasn't focused on every little nuance to appease you not liking Jennings and loving Harris. And in the Harris article I focused on what makes him difference and how that can be a positive.
You're focusing on something a blowing it up way out of proportion. I even said judging him off the Auburn game is dumb as if we are all held to our initial offering in life.
We are talking about two QBs on a football team, right? And not two women from the club the other night. You're going much too hard for something that ain't that serious. And this is coming from someone who feeds their family from writing lol.
Both have potential and both need work -- as this was just a spring game. But both have the ability to improve and both will improve as they gain experience.
You feel me, Nix?
Huh? Do you know what touch is? It's the ability to vary your throwing velocity. Hell, you'd be better off saying "why does he virtually always throw with touch?" His motion is smooth and easy. He has put some zip on the mid-range throws -- most notably one I remember to Quinn in the Florida game.
But he naturally throws with touch. Andrew Luck is like that, too. It's a reason some questioned his arm strength -- but he just throws a very smooth, catchable ball.
But he naturally throws with touch. Andrew Luck is like that, too. It's a reason some questioned his arm strength -- but he just throws a very smooth, catchable ball.
Huh? I thought I made it apparently clear I liked Jennings. I had a whole section about me watching him here in high school?! I was completely honest about that so why is that even being pointed out? That's like in 8 Mile when Eminem rapped about himself before the other guy did. It would've been pointless for that guy to repeat everything Eminem already said.
And did I not just point out in an entire article how they switched up the offensive concepts to fit both QBs? lolol this is like the Twilight Zone or something. Cam called plays both on either player's strengths -- formations and all.
It wasn't a backhanded compliment, I merely wrote what I saw in both instances. Liking Jennings has nothing to do with me analyzing both player's performances.
They both balled out but in different ways...
And did I not just point out in an entire article how they switched up the offensive concepts to fit both QBs? lolol this is like the Twilight Zone or something. Cam called plays both on either player's strengths -- formations and all.
It wasn't a backhanded compliment, I merely wrote what I saw in both instances. Liking Jennings has nothing to do with me analyzing both player's performances.
They both balled out but in different ways...
re: Film Study: LSU QB Harris could lead most explosive offense in SEC
Posted by SECisKing on 6/18/15 at 11:06 am to bayoubengalfan4life
I can definitely dig that, Bayou Bengal...thanks for the read, too.
re: Film Study: LSU QB Harris could lead most explosive offense in SEC
Posted by SECisKing on 6/18/15 at 11:05 am to Nix to Twillie
Whichever offense Les likes to run doesn't matter when they literally ran the offense I described in the spring game for Harris. They showed they can do both in the spring and have the personnel to make it work with either QB.
Whoever he picks I'm fine with as it's not my team. I'm paid to cover the entire conference so I don't have a dog in the fight. I really don't have a preference outside of seeing some great LSU football as I love the style of play.
I vote for whoever Les votes for. But I do like Jennings as a person and hopes he succeeds somehow.
Whoever he picks I'm fine with as it's not my team. I'm paid to cover the entire conference so I don't have a dog in the fight. I really don't have a preference outside of seeing some great LSU football as I love the style of play.
I vote for whoever Les votes for. But I do like Jennings as a person and hopes he succeeds somehow.
re: Film Study: LSU QB Harris could lead most explosive offense in SEC
Posted by SECisKing on 6/18/15 at 11:02 am to Nix to Twillie
You're missing the whole point to that Harris sequence. It was pointing out how great his legs are that he can still get the yards without making the throws.
Bro, you're trying to get me to say Jennings was perfect when he wasn't. But his mistakes, in the spring game, weren't anything to phone home about. He was very good and showed improvement in the mechanical part of his game. There's no denying that. I can't say Harris made any improvements with his mechanics but he doesn't have to in that type of offense. He either went deep or went short...
Jennings has the mid-range throws, deep and short...It's a pick your poison-based argument. Harris can dominate by pushing the defense back by going vertical early and often and threatening them with his legs.
Jennings, while being a good deep-ball thrower, can work the mid-range, West Coast portion of the playbook and allow for yards after the catch and then hit deep balls on occasion to favorable coverage.
Not sure what the disconnect is with you. You like Harris and that's great. Aren't they both LSU QBs? I'm just a writer man, this is actually your team.
Never understood the whole let's disgrace one guy in favor of another, especially when it's not as clear as you'd like to think.
Bro, you're trying to get me to say Jennings was perfect when he wasn't. But his mistakes, in the spring game, weren't anything to phone home about. He was very good and showed improvement in the mechanical part of his game. There's no denying that. I can't say Harris made any improvements with his mechanics but he doesn't have to in that type of offense. He either went deep or went short...
Jennings has the mid-range throws, deep and short...It's a pick your poison-based argument. Harris can dominate by pushing the defense back by going vertical early and often and threatening them with his legs.
Jennings, while being a good deep-ball thrower, can work the mid-range, West Coast portion of the playbook and allow for yards after the catch and then hit deep balls on occasion to favorable coverage.
Not sure what the disconnect is with you. You like Harris and that's great. Aren't they both LSU QBs? I'm just a writer man, this is actually your team.
Never understood the whole let's disgrace one guy in favor of another, especially when it's not as clear as you'd like to think.
re: Film Study: LSU QB Harris could lead most explosive offense in SEC
Posted by SECisKing on 6/18/15 at 10:51 am to Nix to Twillie
SMH...Did I not point out that Jennings locks in on receivers and doesn't understand when to actually bolt the pocket? But I highlighted how it looks like he has tried to improve on that.
Harris locked in on every play and bolted the pocket no matter which play I observed. I merely showed a play where he could've gotten the ball out quick as he wasn't under pressure and the receivers were open -- like I pointed out.
And here's a quote from the Jennings article:
That's not plain enough for you? You'd like me to say Harris scanned his progressions and stayed in the pocket? He didn't, but he doesn't have to in the type of offense I described in the article. I'm still waiting on Nick Marshall to go through a progression and he was highly effective.
Calm down, man. I like Jennings and told everyone I did, but I also said he was a better fit for a ball-control offense whereas Harris could spread you out and absolutely kill you off spread, vertical concepts.
Never said I didn't like Harris -- so I'm not sure what you're implying...But o well, it's not my job to appease you.
Harris locked in on every play and bolted the pocket no matter which play I observed. I merely showed a play where he could've gotten the ball out quick as he wasn't under pressure and the receivers were open -- like I pointed out.
And here's a quote from the Jennings article:
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Jennings has a very live arm and can make all the throws, his problems centered around making the anticipatory throw, distinguishing defensive concepts, not knowing when to bolt the pocket and inconsistent mechanics.
That's not plain enough for you? You'd like me to say Harris scanned his progressions and stayed in the pocket? He didn't, but he doesn't have to in the type of offense I described in the article. I'm still waiting on Nick Marshall to go through a progression and he was highly effective.
Calm down, man. I like Jennings and told everyone I did, but I also said he was a better fit for a ball-control offense whereas Harris could spread you out and absolutely kill you off spread, vertical concepts.
Never said I didn't like Harris -- so I'm not sure what you're implying...But o well, it's not my job to appease you.
re: Film Study: LSU QB Harris could lead most explosive offense in SEC
Posted by SECisKing on 6/18/15 at 10:17 am to PortCityTiger24
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You can easily make the argument that we have the best offensive weapons in the SEC.
Port, people are going to overthink it. Harris' arm + the vertical attack + a running back who can hit home runs + a deep receiving corps full of athletes who can go get it = most explosive
It's simple. Not many teams can remotely claim that as they would be missing some of those elements. Auburn would be right there, too.
But you can't say Arkansas -- as it doesn't have receivers like that backs with that type of explosive speed and the QB doesn't have a big arm.
Georgia has the RB, but not the QB or receivers...Tennessee? Possibly but Jalen Hurd isn't that explosive...etc etc.
Don't overthink the room -- take into account the personnel that LSU has -- which I'm quite sure 100% of you are aware of as it's your team...
quote:-- Arcalades
not in top 5, probably not in top 10. For qb, yeah, but not for athlete.
Huh? My quote directed it to the QB position, man. lol. Looking for something to complain about, huh? Why not put the full quote?
Harris may be the most electrifying athlete to come to Baton Rouge in quite some time — especially as it pertains to the QB position.
re: Film Study: LSU QB Harris could lead most explosive offense in SEC
Posted by SECisKing on 6/18/15 at 10:09 am to PortCityTiger24
Oh, you aren't telling me anything I don't know from my time here since I wrote Braxton Miller article...As someone on the outside looking in, LSU is such a great program and plays football the right way and develops players for the next level.
However, it has a pocket of fans that are so self-loathing. I did an honest assessment on the offensive line talent -- which is the deepest I've studied on film -- and noticed how many didn't like that I wrote that.
It's weird, bro. But it's all good in my book, Port.
However, it has a pocket of fans that are so self-loathing. I did an honest assessment on the offensive line talent -- which is the deepest I've studied on film -- and noticed how many didn't like that I wrote that.
It's weird, bro. But it's all good in my book, Port.
re: Film Study: LSU QB Harris could lead most explosive offense in SEC
Posted by SECisKing on 6/18/15 at 10:05 am to PortCityTiger24
Port City, you're the man, brotha. Thanks for your time.
HAHA, sorry about that, bro. Bad timing on my part...
re: Film Study: LSU QB Harris could lead most explosive offense in SEC
Posted by SECisKing on 6/18/15 at 10:00 am to mostbesttigerfanever
Bro, stop being a video reader and actually read the article. I couldn't be anymore in-depth with what I think or saw. This ain't pictionary, man.
I described -- in-depth -- the type of offense both would thrive in. I never said one was the man over the other, either. Just read and stop being so angry lol.
I described -- in-depth -- the type of offense both would thrive in. I never said one was the man over the other, either. Just read and stop being so angry lol.
Film Study: LSU QB Harris could lead most explosive offense in SEC
Posted by SECisKing on 6/18/15 at 9:38 am
What up, people? Dropping off part 2 of that QB study many have asked me for from the spring game; hope all is well.
Brandon Harris analysis article link
I'm super busy today so I won't be able to chop it up with y'all the way I like to. SMH
Brandon Harris analysis article link
I'm super busy today so I won't be able to chop it up with y'all the way I like to. SMH
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