re: Advocate ref expert says all calls were fine except pass int on Greedy!

It’s a live ball so on fumble recoveries why can’t you just kneel with the ball?


This times 1000. If this call is correct then any time there is a fumble all a player who is on the ground has to do is put a finger on the ball and he possesses the ball and is down. A finger now equals possession in college football on a fumble. So if you have 1 finger on a fumble with your arm extended and are on the ground the play is now over. No one can jump on the ball and hold it in both hands to get possession. BUT we all know that is not how it really works. The call was incorrect.

Rant "ref" and "defensive" experts disagree

What about the formation to spike the ball to stop the clock. Is it ok to not have 4 in the back of the line or have 9 on the line? Refs just let them have it because they felt sorry for them? I think that penalty would have had a 10 sec count down added to it, right?

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Was it an illegal formation on on the spike with 3 seconds left or not?

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well there can be no argument on that. It was illegal. You can't have 6 players lined up off the line of scrimmage.

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According to his explanations, even if a penalty had been called on the alignment for the spike play with "1 second left" there would not have been a time runoff. I don't understand this. If that's truly the case, why not just send the fastest player to the line to spike it regardless of where everyone else is? Based on his explanation, you'd still get to run the next play after what would in essence be another clock stopage and a 5 yd penalty. What am I missing?

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Doesn’t any offensive penalty automatically run off 10 seconds?

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In that situation the ball only has to be touched.

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Then I’ve seen a lot of “fumbles” in the backfield called incorrectly. All those pile up, ball squirts out, picked up by defense “fumbles”.

How many bad snaps on punts were picked up and either quick kicked or advanced in some way by the punting team?

No.

If the team lines up with a running clock and a penalty is committed that causes the play to be blown dead, and therefore stops the clock, there is a runoff. Think of a false start.

If the penalty isn’t something that would cause the play to be blown dead, then the penalty is marked off and whether the clock runs on the ready for play or snap depends on the outcome of the previous play. In this case an illegal formation does not cause a play to be whistled dead, and the spike stopped the clock.

And it wasn’t an illegal formation anyway.

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Overall LSU was gifted alot a great spots and the refs swallowed their whistles most of the game when we held. That was pretty obvious.

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I think this held true for both sides, but the 4th down run at end of regulation the ref gave an extra yard to attain the 1st down should have been challenged by our highly paid coaches...aTm didn't mess around, they knew they were short. The ref let the ball carrier roll a yard on the ground. That would have ended it instead of starting the nightmare.

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so if a RB fumbles the ball.....if his knee is down and he just touches it, is he down?

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Then every extra point should be taken away because the ball holder always has his knee down and is touching the ball.


And yet I’ve seen plays where the ball bobbles when he is placing it in position and he picks it up and runs with it. This should not be allowed if all a player has to do is have a knee down and touch the ball with a finger. He shouldn’t be allowed to advance it in any way.

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Then every extra point should be taken away because the ball holder always has his knee down and is touching the ball.

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OK. Now I see that you're trolling.