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re: Advocate outlines possible trouble ahead for Wade and LSU BB

Posted on 4/19/19 at 1:32 pm to
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
103415 posts
Posted on 4/19/19 at 1:32 pm to
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The NCAA does not operate on proof. They are not a "court of law."

This was posted over on SEC Rant...
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Then again, as noted by Potuto - the former chair of the infractions committee - an NCAA hearing is not a legal proceeding. The NCAA's standard of proof is equivalent to "clear and convincing evidence" in a civil case, such as those involving parental rights, Potuto said. 

"The burden of proof doesn't mean each piece of evidence has to reach that burden," she said. "It means in the complete totality of it you can get there, which means you may reject some of it."

LINK
Posted by ellessuuuu
Member since Sep 2004
9023 posts
Posted on 4/19/19 at 1:33 pm to
What is the NCAA going to investigate. It won't have wiretap recordings, it won't have Wade testimony under oath, Wade has give his statement, Smart has given his statement, Smart's family has given its comments and the handler has either given a statement or told the NCAA to go pound sand (they can't make him talk to them).

Please let me know what the NCAA is going to investigate? They don't have subpoena power, they can't make people interview, what evidence are they going to get.
This post was edited on 4/19/19 at 1:46 pm
Posted by supatigah
CEO of the Keith Hernandez Fan Club
Member since Mar 2004
89730 posts
Posted on 4/19/19 at 1:34 pm to
why do you hate LSU so much? your constant negativity, your whining about the LSU band and now your whining about WW, there is no way you are an LSU "Fan"
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
161683 posts
Posted on 4/19/19 at 1:34 pm to
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. We don't want out program's integrity tarnished


Time to grow up Peter Pan. You want a clean program, go root for Vandy.
Posted by HamBone14
Covington
Member since Jun 2011
1921 posts
Posted on 4/19/19 at 1:34 pm to
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Oh yeah remember all the incredible damning circumstantial evidence surrounding Cam Newton’s recruitment, but no actual hard proof?

God the NCAA just hammered them.

At the end of the day the ncaa really only comes down hard when they have actual proof of something. They may investigate incredibly thoroughly based on allegations, but all their punishments are based on some sort of corroborated evidence.


This. And you should never self report shite like Missouri did. That's a bitch move that beta males make like Alleva.

We just told the NCAA to go frick themselves, then hired a big swinging dick as our AD, reinstated our coach, and sent a message that the NCAA is going to have to find a new bitch to be their D1 scapegoat.

They won't do shite, mostly because we now have an AD with some sac and intelligence.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
71086 posts
Posted on 4/19/19 at 1:35 pm to
So the Advocate just copy and pasted the excerpt that was released in early March and is trying to attach new meaning to it? Exactly what new angle do you think the Advocate has created here? Sounds like exactly what been said for over a month. No shite he was probably talking about cheating, but without the rest of those tapes, it's not going to matter much.
Posted by LSUTigers778
Member since Apr 2019
743 posts
Posted on 4/19/19 at 1:35 pm to
*yawns*
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
161683 posts
Posted on 4/19/19 at 1:37 pm to
They essentially put a new headline on dated information, clickbait 101. Obviously it works since it fools the likes of the OP
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
71086 posts
Posted on 4/19/19 at 1:38 pm to
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Right. Except the NCAA is NOT part of the legal system. They DO operate on hearsay and assumption.

today's ruling must really piss you off

The NCAA does not operate on hearsay and assumption btw. They do not have the same exact "rules of procedure" as a court of law but they do have rules of procedure they must follow. You act like because the NCAA is not a court of law that they are the wild west and have no procedure they are bound to follow. Sorry to bust your bubble, but their stated procedure in their own by-laws is very much like a court of law. And you want to know why? Because they don't want to find themselves on the other end of a lawsuit in an actual court of law.
This post was edited on 4/19/19 at 1:49 pm
Posted by supatigah
CEO of the Keith Hernandez Fan Club
Member since Mar 2004
89730 posts
Posted on 4/19/19 at 1:38 pm to
maybe Irish is Scott Rabalais
Posted by HamBone14
Covington
Member since Jun 2011
1921 posts
Posted on 4/19/19 at 1:39 pm to
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So the Advocate just copy and pasted the excerpt that was released in early March and is trying to attach new meaning to it?


Pulitzer my arse
Posted by LSUFM
Flower Mound, TX
Member since Oct 2018
729 posts
Posted on 4/19/19 at 1:40 pm to
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Tunsil

quote:

Since he said he did (got paid) on national tv and all.


#1. Since he said he got paid, it’s not hearsay. It’s an admission and real evidence.
#2. Wasn’t there another player who stated the same thing? Which bolsters his claim and lends credibility.
None of this is true in the context of what’s going on in the case with LSU bb.
Posted by GeauxtigersMs36
The coast
Member since Jan 2018
12351 posts
Posted on 4/19/19 at 1:41 pm to
That quote between wade and Dawkins was about a player who will be attending Florida state. So if it’s believed wade paid for him and didn’t get him, how much did FSU pay? That’s why unless they have dollar amounts and actual proof, it’s bull shite!
Posted by HeadSlash
TEAM LIVE BADASS - St. GEORGE
Member since Aug 2006
54641 posts
Posted on 4/19/19 at 1:42 pm to
request for deletion
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33843 posts
Posted on 4/19/19 at 1:43 pm to
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Advocate outlines possible trouble ahead for Wade and LSU BB


Fricking hack journalism.

You could write articles every day about what could happen. Report actual news.
Posted by Blanky6715
Dallas, TX
Member since Jul 2014
4378 posts
Posted on 4/19/19 at 1:44 pm to
The advocate has been pure trash lately. Has Guilbeau been hiding under a rock after his complete hissy fit?
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
44670 posts
Posted on 4/19/19 at 1:47 pm to
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The FBI has turned down requests from LSU to share copies of the wiretaps or other evidence gathered on Wade. Ramos' ruling Friday morning that Wade won't testify appears to make it very unlikely those wiretaps will be revealed in the courtroom.

It would be highly unusual for the FBI to hand over sealed wiretaps or other evidence that went unused at trial to NCAA compliance officials even after the criminal cases conclude.
Posted by LSU1SLU
Member since Mar 2013
7863 posts
Posted on 4/19/19 at 1:47 pm to
Sooooo how the frick is this new now lol. Do you work for yahoo?
Posted by tigahlovah
virginia beach, va
Member since Oct 2009
4140 posts
Posted on 4/19/19 at 1:49 pm to
Not only that, I have a sneaking suspicion Wade's new lawyer knows where the bodies are buried in regard to the blue bloods (see his other major clients miller and pearl still employed after MAJOR SMOKE). The ncaa DOES NOT want to go there with their cash cows. We might get a minor slap to help them save face, but even that is doubtful.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61241 posts
Posted on 4/19/19 at 1:49 pm to
you suck
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