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re: Adam Rittenberg: LSU QB most mismanaged position in the last decade

Posted on 5/14/18 at 5:25 pm to
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 5/14/18 at 5:25 pm to
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You are the one that doesn’t care about LSU and only roots for the coach


And you are one of many idiots in this thread.
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
13500 posts
Posted on 5/14/18 at 5:25 pm to
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Sadly he doesn’t realize that example is actually a negative


Did he look at Zeier's actual stats? When you throw the ball more in one year than the average team's at the time throw in 2-3, of course your going to put up ridiculous stats. It was basically a Fun and Gun offense.

Dude threw 858 passes in his last 22 games. Think about that. He averaged freaking 39 passes/game for two full seasons. I wonder why his records were so amazing.


This post was edited on 5/14/18 at 5:34 pm
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
40140 posts
Posted on 5/14/18 at 5:25 pm to
So predictable that you go straight for the “you hate LSU argument” when people call you on your bullshite
Posted by Dave England
Member since Apr 2013
5107 posts
Posted on 5/14/18 at 5:26 pm to
LSU has consistently brought in 4 stars.

That’s part of the intrigue: how does a program recruit so many guys who are 4* who don’t pan out, transfer, change position, go play baseball, etc
Posted by okietiger
Chelsea F.C. Fan
Member since Oct 2005
42484 posts
Posted on 5/14/18 at 5:27 pm to
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Since 2008 we've literally had one good QB. It's sad


And had he not grabbed a regent’s granddaughter’s arse, he’d never have been here. 10 years and counting for an actual LSU recruited QB who’s become a viable option. Let alone progressed at a reasonable level.
This post was edited on 5/17/18 at 12:39 am
Posted by Dave England
Member since Apr 2013
5107 posts
Posted on 5/14/18 at 5:28 pm to
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67 school and 18 SEC records?


List them.
Posted by Old
Metairie
Member since Dec 2016
2843 posts
Posted on 5/14/18 at 5:28 pm to
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Adam Rittenberg: LSU QB most mismanaged position in the last decadequote:Tiger Ree Before the OC announcement: “it’s rant myth that Ensminger will be OC” After Ensminger is announced OC: he suddenly gets the nickname “Slinger” and it was a great hire LOL
How do you spell Ensminger?
This post was edited on 5/15/18 at 8:11 am
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 5/14/18 at 5:29 pm to
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Did he look at Zeier's actual stats? When you throw the ball more in one year than the average team's at the time throw in 2-3, of course your going to put up ridiculous stats. It was basically a Fun and Gun offense


And? Are you crying about the passing yards. Don't forget Garrison Hearst was drafted by the 49ers.

It sucks for your narrative but it happened. As much as it sucks for you there is nothing you can say that will change Eric's or Garrison's records and success.

Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
61014 posts
Posted on 5/14/18 at 5:30 pm to
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Yeah saying he helped Hearst adjust to the NFL game of 25 years ago doesn’t exactly speak volumes of Ensminger’s viability as a major college coordinator in 2018. Maybe if we’d hjred him in 1995 or so it would make more sense


Right he left UGA for the OC position at A&M and after getting fired there he went to Clemson and was also fired, that was 20 years ago. after that he went to HS which tells me he couldn’t get another college job. But all Ree does is cherry pick and acts like that makes his case.

Life in Tug Boat Felons payroll I guess
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 5/14/18 at 5:31 pm to
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List them.


Go to wiki or the Georgia website. I'm not doing work for you. I have a job.

If you don't believe it, then go on with your bullshite
Posted by Dave England
Member since Apr 2013
5107 posts
Posted on 5/14/18 at 5:31 pm to
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"Zeier finished his college career with 67 school records and 18 Southeastern Conference records. He became the SEC's all-time passing leader with 11,153 yards"
There isn’t a player on the roster who was alive when this happened.
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
47842 posts
Posted on 5/14/18 at 5:31 pm to
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You also totally ignored the comment that having a good qb and good LOS are not mutually exclusive.


I agree we shouldn't settle for either/or.

LSU has issues magnified because we play in a Division where it can be exposed (week in/week out) like no other in Country.

It's also inexcusable that we don't go an hire a Top Notch QB developing Coach.



IMO, LSU doesn't do a great job of finding those "gamers" like a Mauck or Flynn.
Posted by Dave England
Member since Apr 2013
5107 posts
Posted on 5/14/18 at 5:32 pm to
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I have a job.



Off course you do

::pinches Ree’s cheek::
::pats Ree on forehead::

Ok now Ree, go back to your “job”.
The adults are gonna go back to discussing LSU football.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
63061 posts
Posted on 5/14/18 at 5:33 pm to
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LSU has consistently brought in 4 stars.



so?

quote:

That’s part of the intrigue: how does a program recruit so many guys who are 4* who don’t pan out, transfer, change position, go play baseball, etc



Poor QB evaluations combined with underdevelopment due to the issues I mentioned.

I hate to argue semantics, because the point about LSU QB play being below average is clear for anyone to see.

But, LSU CHOSE to implement the run heavy offense. It CHOSE to implement a system that would more often than not result in QB play that is subpar.

Mismanagement to me would be playing the wrong player...or passing on QBs that would have been better than the guys we signed. I think our problems at QB were bigger than that.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 5/14/18 at 5:34 pm to
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There isn’t a player on the roster who was alive when this happened.


You did not see the post I was responding to?
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
61014 posts
Posted on 5/14/18 at 5:36 pm to
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It sucks for your narrative but it happened.


No one is disputing anything about Zeier’s stats or Hearst , though SE was the QB coach and PGC so not sure why you keep bringing up Hearst who was a RB.

I’d love to believe you are trolling and not this oblivious
This post was edited on 5/14/18 at 5:38 pm
Posted by Dave England
Member since Apr 2013
5107 posts
Posted on 5/14/18 at 5:37 pm to
I agree with some of what you say but the mere fact not a single QB who transferred out of LSU (rettig rivers Jennings Harris) had any success makes me think that LSU didn’t use the guys incorrectly, they just weren’t that good
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 5/14/18 at 5:37 pm to
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Off course you do

::pinches Ree’s cheek::
::pats Ree on forehead::

Ok now Ree, go back to your “job”.
The adults are gonna go back to discussing LSU football.


This is what happens when a poster is made to look like an idiot and has no other response.

Facts are facts and cannot be changed or challenged.
This post was edited on 5/14/18 at 5:39 pm
Posted by Dave England
Member since Apr 2013
5107 posts
Posted on 5/14/18 at 5:40 pm to
No, I did. Just pointing out the hilarity in citing a single example over the course of a 30 year career as cause for excitement.
Posted by justice
Member since Feb 2006
55383 posts
Posted on 5/14/18 at 5:40 pm to
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Facts are facts and cannot be changed or challenged.

it was a fact you said there is no way LSU would hire Ensminger as OC now he’s the the best because willie roaf and garrison Hearst like their former coach.
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