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re: A statistical comparison of TJ Finley and Nuss
Posted on 12/6/22 at 3:56 pm to Madking
Posted on 12/6/22 at 3:56 pm to Madking
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Most people who are ignorant to sports use partial, incomplete statistics and double standards to make an absolute assessment of what they don’t understand. For example your logic suggests Johnny Manziel is a far better QB than Tom Brady because “muh stats.” It’s a crutch for the ignorant.
I feel the same about peoples lack of reading comprehension skills. You should try it. Start with words below the numbers where I say the numbers are merely interesting and then use some more words to explain why.
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Posted on 12/6/22 at 3:57 pm to Basura Blanco
Lol now you’re gonna pretend your intentions aren’t obvious? Ok buddy
Posted on 12/6/22 at 4:05 pm to Madking
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Lol now you’re gonna pretend your intentions aren’t obvious? Ok buddy
Jesus, Genius, and now buddy? This place realy makes you feel like family. But yeah, you got me. I posted this to show the world I desperately want TJ Finley to come back to BR (would he have to walk backwards thru the portal, or is there like a slide?).
If you really knew my intentions you would know they involve Tea Leoni, a radio playing some soft jazz, and nice pair of new tube socks.
Posted on 12/6/22 at 4:07 pm to tiggerthetooth
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He can't get it cleaned up if he never gets to play.
That’s what practice is for. Maybe he still throwing picks in practice.
Posted on 12/6/22 at 4:07 pm to Basura Blanco
Make it stop please. You guys can find information to make me think my grandmother is my grandfather.
Posted on 12/6/22 at 4:09 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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You’re comparing a starting QB to a garbage time QB? Genius.
Yeah. The garbage time QB should have better stats given that the “garbage time” you are referring to was in games we were losing so bad it didn’t matter.
Posted on 12/6/22 at 4:13 pm to TankBoys32
You getting down voted for something positive. It tells you racism is alive and well on this board. People bashing nuss for throwing ropes Saturday night, and gushing over jd's inability to throw accurately downfield. Lol....all about race.
Posted on 12/6/22 at 4:13 pm to J2thaROC
The irony is that your boy is actually garbage throwing the ball down field.
Posted on 12/6/22 at 4:20 pm to LSBoosie
He threw for more yards in a half than ANY QB has thrown for in a game against UGA this year.
Does he need improvement, yes. But he definitely has the tools. Actual game-time could greatly improve his ability.
JD5 has started for 4 years and still isn't a better passer than Nuss. Nuss was throwing spirals on the run. JD5 throws a lot of wobbly passes that are often short, allowing the defender to recover.
Say what you will, Nuss has a higher ceiling than JD5 and that's not even debatable.
Does he need improvement, yes. But he definitely has the tools. Actual game-time could greatly improve his ability.
JD5 has started for 4 years and still isn't a better passer than Nuss. Nuss was throwing spirals on the run. JD5 throws a lot of wobbly passes that are often short, allowing the defender to recover.
Say what you will, Nuss has a higher ceiling than JD5 and that's not even debatable.
Posted on 12/6/22 at 4:22 pm to abellsujr
As long as he throws 2-3 touchdowns with the interception I’m fine. I’ll take 35 touchdowns to 12 interceptions because the long ball will keep the defense honest and our run game will excel.
Posted on 12/6/22 at 4:24 pm to TankBoys32
This is absolutely the case
Posted on 12/6/22 at 4:28 pm to Colonel Angus
I'll go on record and predict that he wouldn't have 43 sacks. He has a quick release, sees the field, and has mobility and moves in the pocket well.
Posted on 12/6/22 at 4:32 pm to TigerAttorney
Just curious, do you also bash JD when he attempts a downfield sideline pass and routinely throws it out of the field of play? Or when he drops back and has guys running open and he tucks and runs? Or when he has a man deep for a TD and throws it so late it's 10 yards short? Just curious?
Posted on 12/6/22 at 4:39 pm to tiggerthetooth
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quote:JD saw teams adjust all season. Georgia wasn’t ready for Nuss. Next time teams will be ready. Nuss will have to adjust too.
JD has 4 years worth of tape, and it's all the exact same. It seems like JD gets figured out every season.
Actually it’s the failure to adapt to changing defenses that hurt Daniels. He excelled in games where he adjusted and looked bad when he didn’t.
Posted on 12/6/22 at 5:13 pm to Basura Blanco
Why leave out the fact that one player has had multiple starts and starters prep while the other has none? Why comment on individual plays in a negative light for one and not the other or single game performances with equal attempts for both? Pretty obvious
This post was edited on 12/6/22 at 5:14 pm
Posted on 12/6/22 at 5:35 pm to Basura Blanco
I will put it this way:
Those statistics were generated by two very different QBs.
Those statistics were generated by two very different QBs.
Posted on 12/6/22 at 5:49 pm to 304tiger
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The eye test
Every game before Saturday including all the interceptions should be included in your eye test. Not just one half of football.
Posted on 12/6/22 at 6:00 pm to Basura Blanco
Ok! Do you see what's in the parenthesis at the end of each sentence. 5 starts to 1 start. In my opinion if Nuss had 5 starts and played complete games like Finley. He would probably have a lot more touchdowns, yards, completions, maybe interceptions as well. Lol. Now if both have had the same number of starts, then you may have a point, but I don't see the comparison with those statistics. Nuss Is much better!!
Posted on 12/6/22 at 6:05 pm to Madking
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Why leave out the fact that one player has had multiple starts and starters prep while the other has none?
Are you serious? Did you not read the post at all?? I showed the number of games started by both players in the first line of the post. I also clearly stated the advantage Finley had over Nuss in game prep.
From my post:
Finley as a true freshman at LSU. 5 games (5 starts)
Garrett Nussmeier career at LSU. 10 games (1 start)
The main difference of course is that Finley had the benefit of starting and the week(s) of practice reps with the first team that goes into that.
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Why comment on individual plays in a negative light for one and not the other
Are you referring to this comment I made in a different post?
Nuss made 2-3 throws where defensive miscues and his receivers bailed him out. If you go back and look at the SC game for Finley, some of the same type throws were completed
You interpret that to mean I was being negative to one over the other? I am stating that they both made similarly ill advised throws and both had positive results. I have no idea what your hard on is over this
and why you seem to know my intentions, but let me help you out here.
I WANT NUSS TO START. I said it numerous times Saturday night, I said it in a earlier post just today and even explained my reasoning as to why. But feel free to keep assuming my intentions.
Posted on 12/6/22 at 6:20 pm to Alvin3176
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Ok! Do you see what's in the parenthesis at the end of each sentence. 5 starts to 1 start.
Yeah, I do. I put it there and put it there for a reason. I did it because it is a valid part of the statistics. I also explained in the post that the statistics need to be taken with a grain of salt due to those exact facts.
The statistics are what they are. I wasn't using them to make a case for anyone. I just felt it was rather interesting that after basically the same number of attempts, their overall stats were so similar. If I had meant it to be a negative against Nuss, why would I turnaround make the case for Nuss farther down in the same post?
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