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A quick takeaway from the Mulkey hire...

Posted on 4/26/21 at 10:04 pm
Posted by macaoidh
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2009
2922 posts
Posted on 4/26/21 at 10:04 pm
...this could have been done years ago when Fargas got the job but Alleva was such a terrible salesman and such a timid, low-rate leader that he couldn't even make an obvious call like hiring her.

She's always wanted to be the coach at LSU. The bar to get her to say yes was never very high. But Joe Alleva could screw up a wet dream.

Give Woodward credit and all, but this really is a layup. It's not a windmill dunk.
Posted by GeismarGeauxer
Geismar
Member since Dec 2009
5173 posts
Posted on 4/26/21 at 10:07 pm to
So who’s the new baseball hire?
Posted by PurpleExile
Member since Dec 2020
451 posts
Posted on 4/26/21 at 10:19 pm to
How do we know Mulkey would have been receptive to an LSU offer back then?

A lot has changed for Mulkey since LSU made Nikki Caldwell/Fargas its coach in 2011. Baylor had a loaded team coming back for 2012 that included Brittney Griner, the national player of the year. Mulkey would have been foolish to leave Baylor at that time. (She would go on to win two more national championships).

As she said last weekend, there's a right time for everything, and this was it. Don't blame Alleva. He could have asked back in 2011, but Mulkey probably would have told him no.


Posted by LuzianaFootball
Bay Area
Member since Dec 2008
7846 posts
Posted on 4/26/21 at 10:22 pm to
FK Alexander would have found a way to make it fail.
Posted by nitwit
Member since Oct 2007
12234 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 7:13 am to
Very doubtful LSU could/ would have paid a WBB coach same as men’s unless we were in a very unusual spot. The Title IX scandals permitted us to pay what it took for Kim M.
Posted by beauchristopher
new orleans
Member since Jan 2008
65945 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 7:15 am to
She would not like Alleva after he threw two coaches under the bus in his career.

I don’t believe she liked how the Baylor AD treated Art.

She supports other coaches on campus.

I am so glad Alleva is gone.
This post was edited on 4/27/21 at 7:16 am
Posted by tiger perry
Member since Dec 2009
25668 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 7:18 am to
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I am so glad Alleva is gone.




this is an understatement. LSU athletics were going nowhere fast with Alleva running things. Alleva did not want to win anything. He just wanted to remain competitive. LSU won nothing under his watch.
Posted by CDawson
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2017
16416 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 7:22 am to
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Give Woodward credit


This was as much about Kim wanting to come as Woodward selling it. It seems to have been the perfect time for her and the family and a good time to leave Baylor with some friction between her and the AD.

Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37093 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 7:42 am to
Yeah, I don't think the timing was right in 2011. I'd like to think JA at least made that call. But the timing needs to work as well.
Posted by Sponge
Member since Nov 2018
3760 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 7:50 am to
quote:

The bar to get her to say yes was never very high

quote:

Give Woodward credit and all, but this really is a layup. It's not a windmill dunk.

It really amazes me how so many of yall know exactly what was said during the conversations btw Coach Mulkey and Woodward, Breaux, etc.
Posted by jmaclsu
Amite, Louisiana
Member since Dec 2007
505 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 8:41 am to
quote:

How do we know Mulkey would have been receptive to an LSU offer back then?

A lot has changed for Mulkey since LSU made Nikki Caldwell/Fargas its coach in 2011. Baylor had a loaded team coming back for 2012 that included Brittney Griner, the national player of the year. Mulkey would have been foolish to leave Baylor at that time. (She would go on to win two more national championships).

As she said last weekend, there's a right time for everything, and this was it. Don't blame Alleva. He could have asked back in 2011, but Mulkey probably would have told him no.


1) Because she DID want to return to Louisiana in 2011.
2) As the AD, you have to at LEAST make a call and make top targets tell you no, you don't assume anything. That was lazy on his part.
Posted by jmaclsu
Amite, Louisiana
Member since Dec 2007
505 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 8:45 am to
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It really amazes me how so many of yall know exactly what was said during the conversations btw Coach Mulkey and Woodward, Breaux, etc.


I know for a fact that she reached out to LSU before LSU reached out to her. What Woodward did was make certain commitments that she was looking for regarding autonomy and Breaux reassured her of how the community would support successful women's athletics.
Posted by monstranceclock76
Texas
Member since Jul 2019
932 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 8:47 am to
My question is when will the woke culture claim racism for firing a black woman and hiring a white one?
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28344 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 8:55 am to
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this is an understatement. LSU athletics were going nowhere fast with Alleva running things. Alleva did not want to win anything. He just wanted to remain competitive. LSU won nothing under his watch


Alleva's issue was that he was just incredibly lazy on his hires.

Trent Johnson was a good hire on paper and actually produced results very quickly. However, by year three it was clear the program had crashed and apathy set in. Yet, Alleva wasn't going to make a change...until Johnson parachuted out (relatively) late in the coaching carousel putting LSU at a disadvantage. Alleva did kind of a half-assed search but ultimately bowed to the internal pressure to hire a guy (Jones) NO OTHER MARJOR SCHOOL even considered to be a candidate.

In 2015 he made the end of the season complete debacle. Has anyone ever seen a HC carried off the field in his "final game" only to find out 20 minutes later is wasn't his final game? Then he fires Miles 4 games into 2016 to presumably get a jump on the search for replacement. He zeros in on ONE target (Herman) then gets mad when that target leverages Texas against him at the end. So instead of recalibrating he rushes to the podium before the CFB regular season is over to hire his interim coach who had ZERO demand outside of LSU.

Alleva always chose the path of least resistance. He fell arse backwards in to Ed's success and Wade contacted LSU asking for the job...not the other way around. It was Alleva's assistant AD, who played at Florida under Donovan, who pushed for Wade likening him to a young Billy Donovan. Without that, Alleva would have no doubt made the easiest hire he could get
Posted by TigerFan55555
Tomball, TX
Member since Nov 2008
9580 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 10:01 am to
Who you work for is vital, if she didnt think Alleva would give her the support that she knows she will get from Woodward then she aint coming...

I could leave my job right now for several "better" jobs right now... I choose to stay where I am because i get support in every thing that i do... its vastly underrated..
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