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re: A question for all the older Tiger fans
Posted on 3/22/11 at 2:55 am to wryder1
Posted on 3/22/11 at 2:55 am to wryder1
Do any of my fellow "old timers" remember Grid Week magazine?
When I was a little kid, I would go crazy waiting for the new issue to hit the news stands each week. The anticipation would drive me nuts, and I was the happiest kid on earth when I got my new issue. They had great LSU coverage, and the photos were unreal.
Also, memories of checking out Pete Finney's "The Fighting Tigers" from the bookmobile for the unpteenth thousandth time.
Hey, look, I fully appreciate the internet and the Age of Information, and I love Tigerdroppings, but no one can say that things are better now. They're just different.
When I was a little kid, I would go crazy waiting for the new issue to hit the news stands each week. The anticipation would drive me nuts, and I was the happiest kid on earth when I got my new issue. They had great LSU coverage, and the photos were unreal.
Also, memories of checking out Pete Finney's "The Fighting Tigers" from the bookmobile for the unpteenth thousandth time.
Hey, look, I fully appreciate the internet and the Age of Information, and I love Tigerdroppings, but no one can say that things are better now. They're just different.
This post was edited on 3/22/11 at 3:02 am
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Posted on 3/22/11 at 4:56 am to LSU Weirdo
No, we didn't get Grid Week. Damn, sounds like I was missing something nice.
I also memorized parts of Finney's 'Fighting Tigers'. Like a seed catalog in winter, it was great for surviving the off-season.
One of the anticipated events that announced the pre-pre-season was the arrival of the 'Street & Smith's College Football Annual'. Every Div. IA team had a write-up. When those babies arrived on the magazine rack, it was heaven.
I also memorized parts of Finney's 'Fighting Tigers'. Like a seed catalog in winter, it was great for surviving the off-season.
One of the anticipated events that announced the pre-pre-season was the arrival of the 'Street & Smith's College Football Annual'. Every Div. IA team had a write-up. When those babies arrived on the magazine rack, it was heaven.
Posted on 3/22/11 at 5:28 am to wryder1
I hate a good portion of our fanbase because of the internet. Enjoy the programs just as much.
Posted on 3/22/11 at 6:56 am to wryder1
well, the Dekes were the old school TD Rantards....
Posted on 3/22/11 at 7:10 am to Daigeaux
...The internet has it's pro's and con's. But, overall, I much rather have the internet than not.
With anything, you have to take unconfirmed reports with a grain of salt.
The good part is there is a lot of information out there that is very good. You know about things happening in the sports world almost instantaneously.
The bad part is you have to sift through opinions, inaccurate information, biased information and persons with agendas.
The internet like most public political and religious views seem to be more polarized. The people in the extremes normally post the most. Whereas the vast majority of fans are someone in the middle of most debates.
Although there was less stress because you were ignorant of what was going on and more isolated, I am not so sure that was a good thing.
Although I think our Athletic Department also takes the internet with a grain of salt, I do think they do look at it for legitimate gripes and public ground swells.
If the internet causes you too much stress and unhappiness, there is an off button. Get away from it cause you are taking yourself or it entirely too seriously.
With anything, you have to take unconfirmed reports with a grain of salt.
The good part is there is a lot of information out there that is very good. You know about things happening in the sports world almost instantaneously.
The bad part is you have to sift through opinions, inaccurate information, biased information and persons with agendas.
The internet like most public political and religious views seem to be more polarized. The people in the extremes normally post the most. Whereas the vast majority of fans are someone in the middle of most debates.
Although there was less stress because you were ignorant of what was going on and more isolated, I am not so sure that was a good thing.
Although I think our Athletic Department also takes the internet with a grain of salt, I do think they do look at it for legitimate gripes and public ground swells.
If the internet causes you too much stress and unhappiness, there is an off button. Get away from it cause you are taking yourself or it entirely too seriously.
Posted on 3/22/11 at 7:12 am to LSUGrad9295
quote:I think you may have early-onset Alzheimers. Tiger Stadium was nearly empty for many Saturday nights in the late 80's and early 90's. There was no "well we played hard" bullshite, it was a disaster under Archer/Curly....
For me, sports 20 years ago was funner in the sense that it seemed to be more about supporting the team, win or lose...and being happy just as long as the team played hard and gave a good game.
Posted on 3/22/11 at 7:20 am to Coeur du Tigre
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One of the anticipated events that announced the pre-pre-season was the arrival of the 'Street & Smith's College Football Annual'. Every Div. IA team had a write-up. When those babies arrived on the magazine rack, it was heaven.
Like a kid waiting for Santa Claus. I would go to the stores almost every day to see if the magazines were in yet. When I bought one, I read it cover to cover. I would buy each one of the magazines that gave the college football predictions. I felt like Ralphie on A Christmas Story.
This post was edited on 3/22/11 at 7:26 am
Posted on 3/22/11 at 7:21 am to TigersOfGeauxld
quote:
what the 50's were like
quote:There would be some things, but, would like to have the ability to choose WHICH things..
give up everything we have now...internet, pc's, cell phones
Posted on 3/22/11 at 7:31 am to Ole Geauxt
The biggest difference now is that there is no anticipation, if you want to knnow something, ANYTHING, click the mouse & it is all at your fingertips. Before the internet you waited for the Sunday paper, & most of the times you had to wait for Mondays paper b/c the game (night) ended late & you wouldn't get all teh stories until Monday. Then you had to wait for Tiger Rag to come in, mid-week, to find out anything interesting for the upcoming game. I like instant gratification, so the internet days are better.
G E A U X T I G E R S!!!
G E A U X T I G E R S!!!
Posted on 3/22/11 at 7:41 am to wryder1
It's a mix, imo. The much greater availability of information is enormously helpful, especially for people like me who do not live in their favorite team's region. Finding info on LSU sports up here in DC was extremely difficult as recently as 1996; I can only imagine how hard it would have been in the '80s and earlier. And overseas is must have been nearly impossible. Now you can actually watch many of the games live from virtually anywhere in the world.
On the other hand, the internet sports boom has generated a ton of unfortunate side effects. For one thing, sites like this one have specifically amplified the voices of loudmouth, idiotic and counterproductive moron fans who were much easier to ignore previously because noone but their unfortunate families were exposed to their rantings. They were properly isolated and marginalized in a way that discouraged wannabe morons from joining their ranks. Now they can band together and acquire internet "cool points" with several hundred thousand post counts and internet badass reputations, and actually have sadly impressionable young people wanting to be just like them. Instead of just being "that idiot" at the tailgate party or sports bar that no one actually talks to except to make fun of and laugh at, they are kings of the "new media" of message boards and chat rooms where their lack of life actually gives them an advantage in being able to spend all day everyday spewing their idiocy to an audience of literally millions.
Secondly, the internet has also fueled a new era of media hyping, over-hyping, and eagerness for scooping. The ever-present fear of being "scooped" by some blog, twitter feed or website has turned what were once almost legitimate journalists into blowhards simply trying to get their story out first and loudest regardless of source, veracity or common sense.
And third, the internet recruiting phenomenon has added a completely unprecedented area of lunacy to major college sports. Where these kids were once free to enjoy their high school years and the recruiting process naturally, it has now turned into a major commercial enterprise feeding the obsessive attentions of literally millions of grown men intent on tracking the tiniest actions or comments of a bunch of teenage boys. The ridiculous amplification of attention received by these kids has warped the process and their own development in many cases with a level of "diva-ness" that dwarfs the earlier "big man on campus" treatment high school stars used to receive.
Bottom line, it's more fun if you live out of the area and can ignore the bullshite, but not much of an improvement if you're in the area; ignoring the bullshite basically eliminates about 90% of the additional information available from the internet.
On the other hand, the internet sports boom has generated a ton of unfortunate side effects. For one thing, sites like this one have specifically amplified the voices of loudmouth, idiotic and counterproductive moron fans who were much easier to ignore previously because noone but their unfortunate families were exposed to their rantings. They were properly isolated and marginalized in a way that discouraged wannabe morons from joining their ranks. Now they can band together and acquire internet "cool points" with several hundred thousand post counts and internet badass reputations, and actually have sadly impressionable young people wanting to be just like them. Instead of just being "that idiot" at the tailgate party or sports bar that no one actually talks to except to make fun of and laugh at, they are kings of the "new media" of message boards and chat rooms where their lack of life actually gives them an advantage in being able to spend all day everyday spewing their idiocy to an audience of literally millions.
Secondly, the internet has also fueled a new era of media hyping, over-hyping, and eagerness for scooping. The ever-present fear of being "scooped" by some blog, twitter feed or website has turned what were once almost legitimate journalists into blowhards simply trying to get their story out first and loudest regardless of source, veracity or common sense.
And third, the internet recruiting phenomenon has added a completely unprecedented area of lunacy to major college sports. Where these kids were once free to enjoy their high school years and the recruiting process naturally, it has now turned into a major commercial enterprise feeding the obsessive attentions of literally millions of grown men intent on tracking the tiniest actions or comments of a bunch of teenage boys. The ridiculous amplification of attention received by these kids has warped the process and their own development in many cases with a level of "diva-ness" that dwarfs the earlier "big man on campus" treatment high school stars used to receive.
Bottom line, it's more fun if you live out of the area and can ignore the bullshite, but not much of an improvement if you're in the area; ignoring the bullshite basically eliminates about 90% of the additional information available from the internet.
Posted on 3/22/11 at 7:49 am to Coeur du Tigre
quote:Strongly disagree. The internet greatly aggravated that stress and anxiety by greatly multiplying the things we now know we don't know. I felt zero stress in 1981 about whether Dalton Hilliard was going to sign with LSU in '82. I was never anxious about whether Hodson or Guidry was taking more reps in Spring Practice. And I had no opportunity to worry about what Leonard Marshall's 40 time, squat max, or bench press reps were when he signed.
Stress and anxiety are caused by not knowing. The Internet cured that forever.
Nowadays I see many people on this very site stressing and overreacting on a regular basis to information (or lack thereof) that it never would have occurred to us to even wonder about 25 years ago. Our only stress was worrying about winning or losing during the game when it was close (or we were getting whipped), and maybe finding a parking spot on Saturday morning if we were late getting to campus.
Posted on 3/22/11 at 7:53 am to lsusteven
quote:Absolutely agree. The internet has given the illusion of validation to extremists in all realms of thought because they can now band together to give the appearance of not being the rare freaks they are in real life. When you have a site with a thousand asshats, it makes them feel (and seem) to be more normal as compared to the healthy conditioning they would be getting if they were forced to interact with real people in the real world and face the consequences of their behaviour.
The internet like most public political and religious views seem to be more polarized. The people in the extremes normally post the most. Whereas the vast majority of fans are someone in the middle of most debates.
Posted on 3/22/11 at 7:59 am to King Joey
I completely agree with you about the information that is available for those of us living outside of Louisiana. When the old Geaux.com site first appeared, it was like manna from heaven. I remember being so excited about being able to listen to LSU baseball games out here back in the 90's.
Kids coming up today don't know how good they have it (which is what our parents said to us).
Kids coming up today don't know how good they have it (which is what our parents said to us).
Posted on 3/22/11 at 8:13 am to The Mick
quote:Tiger Stadium was never, not once, "nearly empty" on a Saturday night in the fall unless it was a bye week or an away game. We had 70k+ crowds in a 79k seat stadium win or lose.
Tiger Stadium was nearly empty for many Saturday nights in the late 80's
quote:Despite never having anywhere close to the largest stadium until well into the internet era, our attendance has been in the top 20 every year since they kept attendance records. And only twice has it ever even slipped out of the top 15. With SIX consecutive losing seasons, we were still consistently pulling top-15 attendance figures, without the internet. Nobody was happy with the coaching, but they still turned out in droves.
There was no "well we played hard" bullshite, it was a disaster under Archer/Curly....
The amount of bitching and whining was FAR less, though the percentage of people doing it may have been nearly the same. They just didn't do it as often because people would ignore them and treat them like the shitheads they were; so they learned to quit bitching and whining or they became alienated losers with no one to listen to them.
Posted on 3/22/11 at 8:16 am to los angeles tiger
quote:Man, you know it. When I first moved up here, I thought Geaux.com was the greatest invention since bourbon and coke.
When the old Geaux.com site first appeared, it was like manna from heaven.
I would have gone crazy without that site. The only source for any SEC news was USA Today!
Posted on 3/22/11 at 8:23 am to King Joey
This^
Posted on 3/22/11 at 8:36 am to wryder1
Much better by a mile. The only news you would get would be a bit here and there from the TV news, newspaper, that is it. Internet and ESPN has change sports for the better. 
Posted on 3/22/11 at 8:36 am to wryder1
As someone who lives out of state, I can't tell you what a blessing the internet is, as well as improved TV coverage.
Posted on 3/22/11 at 8:39 am to Red Stick Tigress
That made me laugh! I can remember sneaking a peek at my neighbors Tiger Rag early in the morning if mine hadn't arrived yet.
Posted on 3/22/11 at 8:48 am to canyon
quote:
Hey, look, I fully appreciate the internet and the Age of Information, and I love Tigerdroppings, but no one can say that things are better now. They're just different.
Agree. Gotta take the good with the bad on the internet. I do like the instant information on LSU because I can remember not having any info. Just gotta laugh off some of the stupid shite that goes on in here.
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