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re: A PGC who's main talent is developing QB talent is what we need and what we got

Posted on 2/11/20 at 3:17 pm to
Posted by BayouBengals18
Fort Worth
Member since Jan 2009
9843 posts
Posted on 2/11/20 at 3:17 pm to
quote:

We already have the offense installed

We dont need further innovation at this moment in time.




This take, repeated over and over on this board, is so ridiculously dumb.
This post was edited on 2/11/20 at 3:19 pm
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
14040 posts
Posted on 2/11/20 at 3:31 pm to
quote:

We dont need further innovation at this moment in time.

This take, repeated over and over on this board, is so ridiculously dumb.



You have convinced me. Brady can never be replaced. After fifty years, I'm giving up football.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
103909 posts
Posted on 2/11/20 at 3:34 pm to
quote:

We already have the offense installed

We dont need further innovation at this moment in time.



This take, repeated over and over on this board, is so ridiculously dumb.

It's incredible that so many think that the offense can just stay exactly the same and that no tweaking or innovation needs to happen in order to continue to be successful.
Posted by Tigerhead504
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2018
231 posts
Posted on 2/11/20 at 3:47 pm to
I dont know about everybody else but I am assuming that this guy is going to play the same role that Joe Brady played in LSU offense, I mean did this guy actually just get paid $800,000 to develop qb's? If so just qb's ok! But if his role is the same as Joe Brady then based on his resume he is not the guy we need! He has been acbig failure at almost everything he's done. He's another Les Miles with that old school arse football which is why Zeke had so many carries in Dallas. I dont know what he told O to get the job but hopefully it wont be that bad!
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33873 posts
Posted on 2/11/20 at 3:51 pm to
quote:


We already have the offense installed

We dont need further innovation at this moment in time.



This take, repeated over and over on this board, is so ridiculously dumb.


It demonstrates a complacent mindset.
Posted by Tigahs24Seven
Charlie Kirk's America
Member since Nov 2007
14454 posts
Posted on 2/11/20 at 4:21 pm to
quote:

quote:
We already have the offense installed

We dont need further innovation at this moment in time.



This take, repeated over and over on this board, is so ridiculously dumb.


I am not implying in any way that game planning doesn't need to happen for each individual game.... and all the shadow staff doesn't need to help in that planning...but the offense is the offense. I would bet hard money that Brady wasn't alone in tweaking it for each game last year and Ensminger and others had more than a little to do with it. The offense is already there and Brennan knows how to run it. QB development just got a huge shot in the arm with this hire... Game planning ability and on the fly reading of defenses will be the wild card in my opinion.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 2/11/20 at 5:00 pm to
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based on his resume he is not the guy we need! He has been acbig failure at almost everything he's done. He's another Les Miles with that old school arse football which is why Zeke had so many carries in Dallas.


HOLY frick what a bad take.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78156 posts
Posted on 2/11/20 at 5:10 pm to
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Do you think Brady calls the plays the same with Brennan taking snaps? The play calling will be somewhat different because Brennan isn't Burrow and TDP/Emery aren't Clyde. Burrow was our equivalent of having Peyton Manning at QB from a cerebral standpoint with the athleticism of Mahommes. I'm not saying he's at their level, but he brought the mental and athletic aspects to the scheme that are the difference in a play being great and a disaster.


This is sorta my biggest question.

Are we goo to be able to successfully adapt to a different player?

I would Have trusted Brady. Honestly I don’t trust E to be able to. We kind have to hope Brennan can run the same offense.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 2/11/20 at 5:16 pm to
As posted in the other PGC thread:

The most critical aspect of Brady's impact on the program was getting our QB and Wrs to be able to adjust AT THE LOS! The play, as called had several options. The defensive formation determined where the ball was going.

It takes a lot of coaching and TEACHING to get college players to do this successfully.

One would hope that someone with over 16 years of HC/OC experience in the NF fricking L will be able to do this, considering he will be stepping in to a situation where it is already employed.

THIS is what SL has to keep rolling.

We shall see but all the negativity at this point is laughable.

People are who they are though.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78156 posts
Posted on 2/11/20 at 5:24 pm to
There is a difference in teach college kids and teaching NFL Players.

Both in how much time they have to learn it, and their capacity to learn it.

There are a lot of good to great college QBs who aren’t good NFL QBs. Can you get them ready and put them in a. Place to succeed in college football?

Honestly it’s my concern with any NFL guy.
This post was edited on 2/11/20 at 5:28 pm
Posted by redfish99
B.R.
Member since Aug 2007
18676 posts
Posted on 2/11/20 at 5:40 pm to
The resume don’t lie. Dudes been at top level of the sport a long time.
Posted by IIxxBREADxxII
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
9769 posts
Posted on 2/11/20 at 5:46 pm to
Ensminger called 85% of the plays. This is a fact we have heard spoken from O and Joe Brady himself.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33873 posts
Posted on 2/11/20 at 5:59 pm to
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Ensminger called 85% of the plays. This is a fact we have heard spoken from O and Joe Brady himself.



And Brady's 15% was enough to get him the Broyles award plus a big bag from the Panthers?

Do we really think that he wasn't the main catalyst aside from Burrow?
Posted by JBeam
Guns,Germs & Steel
Member since Jan 2011
68377 posts
Posted on 2/11/20 at 6:04 pm to
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And Brady's 15% was enough to get him the Broyles award plus a big bag from the Panthers?

Do we really think that he wasn't the main catalyst aside from Burrow?


It's as if people forgot that Brady called the redzone and 3rd down offensive plays. Man, that didn't take long...
Posted by bopper50
Sugarland Texas
Member since Mar 2009
9892 posts
Posted on 2/11/20 at 6:15 pm to
Unbelievable some of you think that Brady was this Messiah of Offense.

Talented young guy that is a product of extreme media hype.

Slinger is plenty aggressive.
Posted by JBeam
Guns,Germs & Steel
Member since Jan 2011
68377 posts
Posted on 2/11/20 at 6:17 pm to
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Unbelievable some of you think that Brady was this Messiah of Offense.

Tepper/Broyles committee seem to think high of him. Funny how that works.
Posted by TDTiger225
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2019
1510 posts
Posted on 2/11/20 at 7:01 pm to
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To be honest, neither you, nor the critics of this hire, have the first idea what you're talking about. I know at least as much about football as you yo-yos, and I have no idea if this guy is a good, or a bad, hire. And I had no idea if Joe Brady was a good hire until they lit up Texas. And none of us know if Joe Brady was 10% or 90% responsible for our offensive success. So just let Orgeron do his thing, and let's see if he keeps winning.

This is the most rational quote in this whole thread.

Not only that but the coaching staff represent pieces of a puzzle just as the players do. You don't just replace a coach with a replica of the previous, even if that were available. You replace them with someone who fills the most important of your remaining coaching needs based on the entire staff. How the coaching staff work together as a team is more important than individual talent.

O obviously has a vision. I'll wait for the results before handing out a grade.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78156 posts
Posted on 2/11/20 at 7:39 pm to
We’re supposed to trust O blindly but apparently you can’t make a call on Brady.

Ok.

I guess Results only matter when you want them to.
Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
16448 posts
Posted on 2/11/20 at 7:52 pm to
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So was Burrow not Burrow before Brady got there?

Actually no he wasn't. He arrived over the summer before fall camp and had minimal time to learn the offense and get chemistry with his team. He finished 2018 with 10 TDs vs 1 INT and his completion percentage was up dramatically. He also started to make more plays with his feet.

I'm not taking anything away from Brady's contribution bc it was a catalyst to our season. I'm just making the point that even if Brady had remained he would likely not call games the same with Brennan bc Burrow was like having an on field coach and Brady knew he could be extremely aggressive with Burrow as the QB.
Posted by TigerOnThe Hill
Springhill, LA
Member since Sep 2008
7415 posts
Posted on 2/11/20 at 9:22 pm to
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It's amazing how many people don't understand this. Even a piece of software is always changing and receiving updates, sometimes on a weekly basis.


I sure hope our offense is NOT like software w/ updates. At my work, every time the software is "updated", the update fixes one small problem no one noticed while breaking 4-5 things that were not a problem!
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