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A PGC who's main talent is developing QB talent is what we need and what we got
Posted on 2/11/20 at 12:40 pm
Posted on 2/11/20 at 12:40 pm
We already have the offense installed. However, this offense only runs well oiled with a fully developed QB...we now have an OC who can run the offense, and a PGC who can develop the QB to bring it to fruition. I think the hire was perfect.
We dont need further innovation at this moment in time.This offense can destroy teams. We have the athletes at WR and TE....we need a constant presence at QB. This hire will bring that to the bayou.
Great hire.
We dont need further innovation at this moment in time.This offense can destroy teams. We have the athletes at WR and TE....we need a constant presence at QB. This hire will bring that to the bayou.
Great hire.
Posted on 2/11/20 at 12:50 pm to Tigahs24Seven
Don’t waste your breath
Posted on 2/11/20 at 12:51 pm to Tigahs24Seven
Stop bringing common sense and facts here.
Posted on 2/11/20 at 12:52 pm to Tigahs24Seven
Losing Brady's playcalling in goal to go situations is going to sting. Ensminger spent a lot of time with him though so hopefully he absorbed some of Brady's tendencies.
Posted on 2/11/20 at 12:54 pm to Tigahs24Seven
let me propose to you this hypothetical situation
LSU is in overtime vs Alabama.
Joe Brady gets a shot to call plays starting at the 25.
Steve Ensminger gets a shot to call plays starting at the 25.
Do you think they are calling the same plays?
LSU is in overtime vs Alabama.
Joe Brady gets a shot to call plays starting at the 25.
Steve Ensminger gets a shot to call plays starting at the 25.
Do you think they are calling the same plays?
Posted on 2/11/20 at 1:01 pm to Lester Earl
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let me propose to you this hypothetical situation
LSU is in overtime vs Alabama.
Joe Brady gets a shot to call plays starting at the 25.
Steve Ensminger gets a shot to call plays starting at the 25.
Do you think they are calling the same plays?
Not to mention one of these guys was constantly developing and implementing new plays, so the offense was always growing and changing.
Take, for example, the last TD we scored in the first half against Alabama. That play design was installed exclusively by Brady, and it wasn't a part of our offense just a few weeks prior. He talked about how it's a "copy-cat" league, and during the off week he noticed that play had been run with success in the NFL a few weeks beforehand. So he adopted it and tweaked it a little bit.
Alabama had no idea it was coming because they had never seen it before.
This post was edited on 2/11/20 at 1:05 pm
Posted on 2/11/20 at 1:06 pm to Lester Earl
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let me propose to you this hypothetical situation LSU is in overtime vs Alabama. Joe Brady gets a shot to call plays starting at the 25. Steve Ensminger gets a shot to call plays starting at the 25. Do you think they are calling the same plays?
Do you think Brady calls the plays the same with Brennan taking snaps?
The play calling will be somewhat different because Brennan isn't Burrow and TDP/Emery aren't Clyde. Burrow was our equivalent of having Peyton Manning at QB from a cerebral standpoint with the athleticism of Mahommes. I'm not saying he's at their level, but he brought the mental and athletic aspects to the scheme that are the difference in a play being great and a disaster.
The scramble throws vs Texas on 3rd and 17 and against UGA are Burrow, not a great Brady design. His 1st TD vs UGA was a prolonged scramble. His play vs Clemson in the 1st half scramble to set up the TD was again, Burrow.
Having a 5th year grad transfer taking online classes only that could prep like an NFL QB is an incredible luxury. I think Brennan will do well, but Burrow is just a different cat from a competitive and development standpoint.
Posted on 2/11/20 at 1:12 pm to Tigahs24Seven
To be honest, neither you, nor the critics of this hire, have the first idea what you're talking about. I know at least as much about football as you yo-yos, and I have no idea if this guy is a good, or a bad, hire. And I had no idea if Joe Brady was a good hire until they lit up Texas. And none of us know if Joe Brady was 10% or 90% responsible for our offensive success. So just let Orgeron do his thing, and let's see if he keeps winning.
Posted on 2/11/20 at 1:12 pm to Cs
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Not to mention one of these guys was constantly developing and implementing new plays, so the offense was always growing and changing.
Posted on 2/11/20 at 1:15 pm to Lester Earl
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let me propose to you this hypothetical situation
LSU is in overtime vs Alabama.
Joe Brady gets a shot to call plays starting at the 25.
Steve Ensminger gets a shot to call plays starting at the 25.
Do you think they are calling the same plays?
Of course not. Let me propose THIS hypothetical to YOU:
LSU is in OT vs Bama. Bill Belichick gets to call plays starting at the 25, and Bill Walsh gets to call plays starting at the 25. Do you think they call the same plays?
Posted on 2/11/20 at 1:16 pm to Penrod
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LSU is in OT vs Bama. Bill Belichick gets to call plays starting at the 25, and Bill Walsh gets to call plays starting at the 25. Do you think they call the same plays?
Posted on 2/11/20 at 1:17 pm to Tigahs24Seven
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This post was edited on 4/24/21 at 11:47 am
Posted on 2/11/20 at 1:20 pm to Nobelium
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An offense isn't software that you install and then it's there forever. It's not just a playbook; anyone can go on youtube and figure out LSU, Oklahoma, or Clemson's playbook. The key is adapting that playbook to your own personnel and what the defense is doing to stop you. If it was literally just the playbook there would be no reason to pay anyone to be an OC, just tick off the plays as you go down a spreadsheet.
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Posted on 2/11/20 at 1:27 pm to Nobelium
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An offense isn't software that you install and then it's there forever. It's not just a playbook; anyone can go on youtube and figure out LSU, Oklahoma, or Clemson's playbook. The key is adapting that playbook to your own personnel and what the defense is doing to stop you. If it was literally just the playbook there would be no reason to pay anyone to be an OC, just tick off the plays as you go down a spreadsheet.
I trust Orgeron but it just isn't as simple as saying "now that Ensminger has the spread offense playbook, all he has to do is run the same plays and everything will work exactly the same."
It's amazing how many people don't understand this. Even a piece of software is always changing and receiving updates, sometimes on a weekly basis.
"Ensminger has the playbook so we'll be fine". If it was that easy, every team would hire some offensive wizard as a consultant in the off season to design a playbook for their OC to call plays from.
People don't realize how good of an on the field coach Joe Brady was, and how his coaching led to a change of attitude and execution in the play of our WRs, along with a significant improvement to the timing and rhythm of the passing game as a whole.
This post was edited on 2/11/20 at 1:55 pm
Posted on 2/11/20 at 1:58 pm to Tigahs24Seven
SL is an awesome hire. Most posters are too dumb to know.
Posted on 2/11/20 at 2:18 pm to RB10
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Ensminger spent a lot of time with him though so hopefully he absorbed some of Brady's tendencies.
Even if not fully absorbed, he can still watch film.
Posted on 2/11/20 at 2:56 pm to Penrod
Could not agree more....these posters have high opinions of one's self. Let CEO do his job and peeps here be fans. Na, that makes too much sense...HAHA
Posted on 2/11/20 at 2:58 pm to Tigahs24Seven
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We dont need further innovation at this moment in time.
This is just wrong. You always need innovation.
Opponents have an offseason to catch up on everything you did last season. Standing pat means you're falling back to the pack. This is a chess match and it takes just as much work to stay on top as it took to get to the top.
This post was edited on 2/11/20 at 2:58 pm
Posted on 2/11/20 at 3:10 pm to BayouCowboy
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The play calling will be somewhat different because Brennan isn't Burrow
So was Burrow not Burrow before Brady got there?
Posted on 2/11/20 at 3:16 pm to Tigahs24Seven
Ensminger calling the plays is fine. All we need SL to do is help develop MB and be a different set of eyes in the booth that's capable of reading defenses and relaying what he sees.
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