re: 9-4 is not a good season.

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mean it's no secret that Orgeron believes in positively thinking. 

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thats why he is a good interim coach and a bad head coach.

interim coaches have no pressure, they can circle the wagons and create an ,"us against the world" mentality with the players and get them up with emotion. but once that Ra Ra shite stops working and you actually have to make long term decisions at a program O shows himself to be lacking. Case in point... no backup plan for losing Sustain, hiring an OC thats heavy on the presnap motion and him not liking presnap motion.

All good points. I guess I'm in the setting obtainable goals camp. It's something I learned through massive weight loss and overcoming substance abuse. I heard it some playing sports as a kid too. When you fall that short of your goal, it can hurt pretty bad.

You more than likely won't get to the CFP if you don't win the SEC and you can't win the SEC if you don't win the West. I would prefer to start there, but obviously I'm not a football coach, much less the LSU coach.

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Hard to look at his history of decision making and then use that to make a case that he has a process.

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This has been my concern for most of the time he's been here. He just doesn't seem to be very detail oriented and I believe that's why he usually playing catchup on situation a instead of being in front of them.

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since this is such common practicen link me to other cfb coaches that let it get out into the public about making the playoff.

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I don't know of any other cfb coaches that do. Maybe they do but reporters don't put it out because it is pretty inconsequential if they did or maybe reporters weren't in the locker room or practice session when they did. I wouldn't think it was bizarre if they did though and I certainly wouldn't think they were "liars" when it doesn't happen.

As far as getting it out to the public. I dont' think he was trying to 'get it out to the public'. Reporters were in the locker room after the game observing and reporting on what goes on in the locker room. I guess Coach didn't feel any need to tell the reporters to leave the room, probably because he didn't give it a second thought and how would he know that some rantards would blow it up into some promise that he made to them?
Maybe he doesn't care what rantards think, Maybe an argument could be made that he should care

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Also, you look at O's decision making and it's tough to conclude that he's following a process. How does someone go from considering Kiffin to hiring Canada. Then how does someone go from Canada to Ensminger? Is there a singular train of thought or grand strategy that brings one to make those decisions? Hard to look at his history of decision making and then use that to make a case that he has a process.

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I'm sure there is a process, there is always a process. I would bet they plan practice and don't just go out there willy nilly on the fly. I'm sure beefing up the trenchs was part of the plan or "process". etc. Just ridiculous to say there is no process or plan. Now you might not agree with the process.

By the way how would you or any of you define what is a CFB coaches process? Examples of things that are a process, or examples of Sabans process that is different than other CFB coaches.

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By the way how would you or any of you define what is a CFB coaches process? Examples of things that are a process, or examples of Sabans process that is different than other CFB coaches.

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well we know for a fact that neither alleva nor orgeron have any idea how to vet or scout potential hires.