re: 44-9 the most wins in a 4 year period and the first time

If you don't question everything, you'll never understand anything. The question I have is why does any attempt to put context around LSU's narrative bother you? You don't have any personal stake in it? Shouldn't it just be another thing to better understand what Les has done. He's won 10 games a bunch, he's had the longest period of playing at least 13 games in school history. He also has a bunch of other great statistics that are listed in the numbers thread that gets bumped. I just don't think this is his most impressive stretch.

As to his winning percentage since he's been here, it is tops, but that wasn't what I meant.

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You're trying way too hard to minimize what Miles has done since he's been here.

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That is exactly the whole point. We aren't talking about what "Miles has done since he's been here," we're talking about a subsection of that which has arbitrarily been set at 4 years because that is allegedly the most favorable way to slice it.

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I see how you can take that the wrong way, but its a legit question. Is it right to get as excited as some do with a 10 win season now that we play up to 14 games a year?

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Well to put it in context, LSU only played 14 games in one of the past 4 years. They averaged 13.25 games played and averaged 11 wins. 10 wins generally isn't anything for LSU fans to get excited about but considering the extensive rebuilding process we had on defense, 10 wins against and SEC schedule is more than acceptable.

Here's a research project for somebody arguing in this thread...I'm working and too busy.

What are the records of other coaches at other schools over this same 4 year time frame?

Are there any others than Saban at Alabama that can beat Miles record during this 4 year period?

Bob Stoops is 42-10 in that stretch. As much as we mock him for being big game Bob, he lost his title game so he's played less games, he has two conference titles and two BCS Bowl Games in that stretch.

Is what he has done as impressive as what Les Miles has done? You be the judge.

Oregon is 47-6 over the last four seasons. Three conference titles. Three BCS bowl appearances.

Boise is 43-10.

Bama is 46-6.

Stanford is 46-7 with 4 BCS births, 3 division titles, 2 conference titles.

Urbs's 48-7 mark he posted from 2006-2009 contained 2 BCS titles 2 conference titles, 3 division titles, and 3 BCS bowl games for context.

Those teams struck me as the most likely candidates to have similar resumes.

Now the real issue is to go and look at the other streaks identified in LSU's history by the other poster and see if how many other teams had similar resumes.

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Bob Stoops is 42-10 in that stretch. As much as we mock him for being big game Bob, he lost his title game so he's played less games, he has two conference titles and two BCS Bowl Games in that stretch.

Is what he has done as impressive as what Les Miles has done? You be the judge.

Oregon is 47-6 over the last four seasons. Three conference titles. Three BCS bowl appearances.

Boise is 43-10.

Bama is 46-6.

Stanford is 46-7 with 4 BCS births, 3 division titles, 2 conference titles.

Those teams struck me as the most likely candidates to have similar resumes.

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The National Champion has come from the SEC for 8 of the last 10 years, including 7 straight. In that span, Saban and Miles are among the top winning % for coaches in the entire NCAA. And they do it in the best conference in the country.

One is a loved, one is loathed.

Bama is the only program playing similar "toughest schedule" in the examples posted...

but let's remember, they played teams like UT, KY, and Mizzou, from the East... not the same as playing USC, UGA and UF

not even close

Screw Alabama, that mulligan game still ticks me off

Spurrier is 42-11 and Richt is 36-18 during this time frame.

So only Saban at Alabama has a better record in the SEC.

we play in the hardest division in college football. 10 wins is good

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Definately a good stat but is 10 wins really what it used

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first of all, 44.9 divided by 4 means 11 games a year avg.

and that is amazing playing in the sec west. in the absence of saban LSU would be top dog of the west and the whole SEC. it is what it is; we have a nemesis; that's life.

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Spurrier has eeked out a better record than Miles over the last 3 years though.

He is 33-6 to Miles 33-7.

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I bet Spurrier would kill to have that extra game.

ETA: I bet he'd also love to have a head to head win over Miles as well.