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Posted on 7/15/11 at 4:27 pm to Whiskey Richard
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To clarify, I understand we dont have the personel to swap to it, but I was wondering if everyone was satisfied with the 4-2-5/ 4-3
Yeah I gotcha man, I really like the 4-2-5, we will always have a distinct speed advantage, just have to get the interior DL to hold their own.
Posted on 7/15/11 at 4:29 pm to TorNation
I like the 4-2-5, utilizes our speed at LB well.
Posted on 7/15/11 at 4:41 pm to BigEdLSU
Personnel wise we can run a 4-2-5 beautifully. A 3-4 would be incredibly difficult seeing as how we are really light and inexperienced in the LB position with the exception of a couple of juniors. Chavis has established the 4-2-5 as a general counter for most 3 and 4 WR sets
Posted on 7/15/11 at 5:55 pm to rkhour1
Rummel puts all their talent on Defense. We may not have a single wideout over 5' 8" but alawys seem to have some big fast safeties.
Posted on 7/15/11 at 6:10 pm to Whiskey Richard
Personally my favorite is the 3-4. I love the havoc it causes in the backfield but to play to our strengths LSU should use the 4-2-5
Posted on 7/15/11 at 6:31 pm to Tigah32
I actually think LSU is well suited for the 3-4. Really your outside backers are ends without their hands in the dirt. WE also have versatile d-lineman that could play a true end or slide inside and play tackle (Ego and Brockers and others) I also think the Freak and others would be strong enough to hold down the nose and control the middle. You would also get more atheletes(ie all the tweener ends we have like Maclin and Mingo) on the field
This post was edited on 7/15/11 at 6:38 pm
Posted on 7/15/11 at 6:45 pm to crownroyaltiger
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4-2-5 allows for more athletes and speed on the field. I however worry about a team using the power game on us.
Thats exactly what Auburn did to us last year. Their blockers beat our defenses' arse.
Posted on 7/15/11 at 8:55 pm to horndog
Common misconception: lsu runs a 4-2-5. Yes, they do play with these numbers at each position most of the time, however it is a 4-3 scheme. WE just play it from nickel personnel. A 4-2-5 is an 8 man front with 8 man front run fits. We run a 7 man run fit concept most of the time.
Posted on 7/15/11 at 9:38 pm to bengaltygers
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however it is a 4-3 scheme
With smaller OLBs.
Posted on 7/16/11 at 12:55 am to BigEdLSU
I like a 4-3-4, but our personnel at this time is probably better suited for the 4-2-5, at least in terms of putting the best 11 on the field.
Posted on 7/16/11 at 7:20 am to MontanaTiger
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I like a 4-3-4, but our personnel at this time is probably better suited for the 4-2-5, at least in terms of putting the best 11 on the field.
What some people are calling a4-2-5 is actually a4-3 played with nickel personnel. These are two totally different animals! We run a 4-3. We play it with nickel personnel. We do not run a 4-2-5. Again, 4-3 is a 7 man front and allows you to easily play with two high safeties. A 4-2-5 is a variation of an 8 man front and becomes more difficult to play with 2 high.
My point is, I agree that w are loaded at safety types. But in no form our fashion does that need to dictate what scheme we run. We can get our best 11 on the field just as easily in a 4-3 as we can in a 4-2-5. It's just a matter of chief's philosophy what scheme we play. And he is a 4-3 guy.
Posted on 7/16/11 at 7:58 am to Whiskey Richard
I really like the 4-2-5, I think that it gives the defense a lot of flexability. I am also still very partial to the 4-3 base though! 
Posted on 7/16/11 at 10:29 am to bengaltygers
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What some people are calling a 4-2-5 is actually a 4-3 played with nickel personnel.
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4-3 is a 7 man front
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4-2-5 is a variation of an 8 man front
quote:Many people just don't seem to get this.
We do not run a 4-2-5.
Posted on 7/16/11 at 12:02 pm to Whiskey Richard
I'm old school, so I like the 4-3. One of the best NFL defensive squads EVER was a 3-4 (the Dome Patrol).
Louisiana's problem as a state is we produce too many TEs and DL, and not enough OL and LBs. We always have plenty of DBs, too. That pretty much limits us to recruiting big TEs to make OL and DEs, and larger DBs which grow into LBs. We always have a surplus of DL and a deficit of LBs. To play a 3-4, you have to have 7 linebackers who can play. With a 4-3, you can get by with 5.
That limits us to running a 4-3 or 4-2-5, even if we wanted to run a 3-4.
Louisiana's problem as a state is we produce too many TEs and DL, and not enough OL and LBs. We always have plenty of DBs, too. That pretty much limits us to recruiting big TEs to make OL and DEs, and larger DBs which grow into LBs. We always have a surplus of DL and a deficit of LBs. To play a 3-4, you have to have 7 linebackers who can play. With a 4-3, you can get by with 5.
That limits us to running a 4-3 or 4-2-5, even if we wanted to run a 3-4.
Posted on 7/16/11 at 12:12 pm to horndog
quote:No Auburn used the option read utilized the relative inexperience of our dbs and the athleticism of Cam Newton to exploit the fact that last season we were abysmal at being disciplined in our lanes and tackling assignments. That combined with the fact that the tackling form of the entire defense last season was akin to that of a high school team.
Thats exactly what Auburn did to us last year. Their blockers beat our defenses' arse.
This post was edited on 7/16/11 at 12:20 pm
Posted on 7/16/11 at 1:27 pm to crownroyaltiger
I do get concerned about power running teams but, Wisconsin tried to push TCU around and it didn't work out too good for Wisconsin.
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