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re: 4-2-5 vs 3-4 and Stopping the Spread
Posted on 5/6/20 at 7:23 pm to southdowns84
Posted on 5/6/20 at 7:23 pm to southdowns84
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There are injuries every year. Dorsey was never the same after the Auburn chop block. He was way more important to that team than Delpit but they still managed to finish the season strong statistically if you account for the two triple overtime games.
I can line up a whole lot of contributing factors for "under performing" the expectation but they will just sound like excuses to those with this mindset. In reality all of these "statistically dominant" defenses were nothing but moral victories for us because in the end none of those dominant defenses were undefeated as this one was. So somewhere they had a flaw too.
But then the arguement moves to "but we had no offense back then." Well we had offense this year and our defense had to endure 68 scoring drives by our offense in 3 min or less. Speaking of Les he would have turned over in his grave for that stat. He would have strived to be the TOP leader... Jimbo got that title this year. I do not want to be aTm.
So back to the 2019 defense, with all those returning Jrs we had one returning starting LB and he missed 9 games for suspension. We had 0 (that is zero) CB's behind the two starters with any experience. We never figured out whether Jacoby Stevens is a LB or Safety but he should be on the field somewhere, and Safety as a whole was a patchwork quilt behind Delpit.
So my point in all this was that this yrs defense had to find a chemistry and gel. At the end it was nothing like what it was envisioned coming out of fall camp.
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Posted on 5/6/20 at 7:49 pm to GetmorewithLes
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So back to the 2019 defense, with all those returning Jrs we had one returning starting LB
Jacob Phillips?
And I don’t care if Queen didn’t start last year. He was a 1st round talent.
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In reality all of these "statistically dominant" defenses were nothing but moral victories for us because in the end none of those dominant defenses were undefeated as this one was. So somewhere they had a flaw too.
My point was that those defenses were comparatively better relative to other defenses in college football at that time, and they did it with less talent.
Posted on 5/6/20 at 11:46 pm to SammyTiger
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I know no one read the article, but it does explain why we did what we did
I read the article. And many thanks for posting it.
I found it very interesting. IRL, it seems defenses are far more complicated than mere alignments.
Few other thoughts:
- Not sure why (don't think injuries tell the whole story) but our D was pretty meh most of the year but they were outstanding the last four games.
- IIRC, Queen was the odd man out and the plan was to move Divinity inside at the start of the season. In hindsight, we had already decided to replace a 1st rd pick with an UDFA.
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- I think it's really hard to 'engineer' a defense that can match up against all the exotic offenses it will see across a season. "bad games" are gonna happen.
- Almost every DC has weaknesses and will eventually accrue lots of bones in their closet. And I also think it's flawed to cherry pick their worst moments as if that defines them.
- Every DC has some minimum talent threshold to make their scheme work.
- Although Saban/Bama have had a decided talent advantage in almost every game, any team with above average talent and a competent scheme on offense has good success against them. I think it was Gary Danielson about 4-5 yrs ago that compiled a series of quotes by Saban on 'how to defend the spread.' It was funny. Nick was all over the place with his "keys." For all the success and talent, he really does not know how to defend modern offenses.
Posted on 5/7/20 at 6:23 am to skullhawk
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Defense seemed to turn it around after the Ole Miss debacle.
Aranda had become lazy. riding on the coattails of "leads" by the offense, until exposed.
Then they likely got chewed-out and started to work hard again.
Posted on 5/7/20 at 9:46 am to Tiger Nation 84
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4-2-5 nickel is the only way to play modern football.
With LSU's team speed, spill and kill works.
Posted on 5/7/20 at 1:08 pm to SammyTiger
I remember against Florida in 2005, Pelini used some 3 man lines specifically to combat the spread offense.
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