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re: 3 BRPD officers on leave following Koy Moore incident

Posted on 11/10/20 at 8:57 am to
Posted by TeamLSU
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 11/10/20 at 8:57 am to
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The only problem is you arr trying to link two events that are nothing alike.



The link between the two incidents is MAYBE the officers were blowing things out of proportion just as the officers in the Floyd incident. Therefore it's similar in that context. This is yet to be determined until the body cam footage is released.
Posted by AnthonyWC70788
Plaquemine, LA
Member since Jan 2013
3311 posts
Posted on 11/10/20 at 10:13 am to
See you keep saying you want the situation play out but you also keep saying something about the police immediately turning on their body cameras like you know what exactly happened. So another words you are immediately jumping to conclusion. How do you know they were not on. They already said they are doing an investigation. And like I said in my earlier post Baton Rouge PD does have a body camera policy. SO if they were not on they will be fired. IF they were on the video will show what happened. Either way you know nothing and automatically jumping to conclusions about police officers is just wrong. There is alot of officers on this board. Not all officers are bad. Just like not all citizens are criminals.
Posted by TeamLSU
Member since Feb 2009
3653 posts
Posted on 11/10/20 at 10:55 am to
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See you keep saying you want the situation play out but you also keep saying something about the police immediately turning on their body cameras like you know what exactly happened


Do you not comprehend what I'm saying or said? I specifically said that IF the officers had their body cam on then the situation will play out.

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So another words you are immediately jumping to conclusion.


How am I jumping to conclusions when again, I specifically said, let the situation play itself out.

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How do you know they were not on. They already said they are doing an investigation. And like I said in my earlier post Baton Rouge PD does have a body camera policy. SO if they were not on they will be fired.


Where in any of my comments I said positively that the officers body cam was not on.

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SO if they were not on they will be fired.


This was my main point concerning the body cam.

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Either way you know nothing and automatically jumping to conclusions about police officers is just wrong.


Again show me ANYWHERE, I said the Police are wrong. I simply stated IF they didn't follow Proper Protocol, there will be a problem. Proper Protocol is turning on the body cam.

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Not all officers are bad. Just like not all citizens are criminals.




I never lump the actions of a few individuals into a large group.
This post was edited on 11/10/20 at 11:07 am
Posted by GoneFishing21
Member since May 2017
3667 posts
Posted on 11/10/20 at 11:16 am to
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The link between the two incidents is MAYBE the officers were blowing things out of proportion just as the officers in the Floyd incident. Therefore it's similar in that context. This is yet to be determined until the body cam footage is released.


The officers were the ones blowing things out of proportion in the George Floyd incident? Have you even watched all of the videos? You do realize they had already previously called for a rescue squad for him. There was clearly no intent to murder the guy and whether the officers actions were improper or not, the officers were not the ones who blew things out of proportion.
This post was edited on 11/10/20 at 12:42 pm
Posted by TeamLSU
Member since Feb 2009
3653 posts
Posted on 11/10/20 at 11:36 am to
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The officers were the ones blowing things out of proportion in the George Floyd incident? Have you even watched all of the videos? You do realized they had already previously called for a rescue squad for him. There was clearly no intent to murder the guy and whether the officers actions were improper or not, the officers were not the ones who blew things out of proportion.



At the end of the day, the question remains, was the action of kneeling of the neck of George Floyd JUSTIFIED. Tell me if you were defending the officer, explain how you can say the knee to the neck was JUSTIFIED in his acts. So, I still stand by my comment that the Officer blew things out of proportion by kneeling on the neck of George Floyd.
Posted by GoneFishing21
Member since May 2017
3667 posts
Posted on 11/10/20 at 11:42 am to
The knee on the neck can be justified for a time. You have no idea how much pressure was being placed there. You don’t know if that killed Floyd or not. The officers were on top of him to try and control him because he was not complying with them. I’m not justifying the officers actions, but to say they are the ones who blew the incident out of proportion is one of two things. Either you know better and you’re lying about it or you don’t really know much about the incident besides the one initial video and what the media told you. And you’re already changing what you said. You said the officers blew things out of proportion in the Floyd incident. Now you change it to say the one officer blew things out of proportion because of a knee on the neck. In your opinion, what did George Floyd do? Did he blow things out of proportion?
This post was edited on 11/10/20 at 11:49 am
Posted by Tigerpride18
Lakewood Colorado
Member since Sep 2017
32136 posts
Posted on 11/10/20 at 11:44 am to
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by CDawson
Freaking systematic racism is everywhere.



Shut the frick up







I think he was being sarcastic
Posted by J2thaROC
Member since May 2018
14879 posts
Posted on 11/10/20 at 11:46 am to
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The knee on the neck can be justified for a time


Yeah, no it can’t
Posted by GoneFishing21
Member since May 2017
3667 posts
Posted on 11/10/20 at 11:47 am to
Yeah it can depending on the situation. You’ve been wrong about everything so far. Nice to see you back, though
Posted by J2thaROC
Member since May 2018
14879 posts
Posted on 11/10/20 at 11:48 am to
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The officers were the ones blowing things out of proportion in the George Floyd incident?


I do know at one point they had him in the back of the patrol car and chose to take him back out and kneel on the back of his neck and now he’s dead.

There was zero justification for taking him back out of the patrol car. I don’t care how much kicking and screaming he was doing in there, just shut the door and take him into the station.
Posted by GoneFishing21
Member since May 2017
3667 posts
Posted on 11/10/20 at 11:50 am to
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I do know at one point they had him in the back of the patrol car and chose to take him back out and kneel on the back of his neck and now he’s dead.


Your stories are a lot like Moore’s so far. They leave out a lot of details. How long does it take to pass out from a choke or a knee on the back of the neck?
This post was edited on 11/10/20 at 12:04 pm
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
69343 posts
Posted on 11/10/20 at 12:02 pm to
Most police departments, I would give the officers the benefit of the doubt until proven otherwise, but not BRPD. That department is absolutely chock full of complete a-holes on a power trip who get off on harassing college students and treat the citizens of BR like enemy combatants who need to be taught “a lesson”. F$&k BRPD, they’ve well-earned their reputation. This conduct is completely unsurprising by them, as they pulled similar crap on me when I was in college not doing anything wrong, not sassing the officer, not resisting, not intoxicated, not even speeding or disobeying traffic laws.
This post was edited on 11/10/20 at 12:06 pm
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
41836 posts
Posted on 11/10/20 at 12:12 pm to
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I do know at one point they had him in the back of the patrol car and chose to take him back out and kneel on the back of his neck and now he’s dead.

There was zero justification for taking him back out of the patrol car. I don’t care how much kicking and screaming he was doing in there, just shut the door and take him into the station.

That will be adjudicated. The cops will be tried and a jury will determine their fate.

Floyd made a big mistake and paid for it. Moore seemed to act correctly and his story is being investigated. There’s a lesson here. Can you find it?

Posted by TeamLSU
Member since Feb 2009
3653 posts
Posted on 11/10/20 at 12:24 pm to
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The knee on the neck can be justified for a time.


So you're sitting here telling me that when someone is handcuffed behind their back, laying face down on the ground, is NOT a threat to the OFFICER, HIMSELF, or the PUBLIC, it is appropriate and JUSTIFIED to put a knee to the subjects neck?

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In your opinion, what did George Floyd do?

First, he broke the law. Then he became combative, then he complied with the commands of the officers once he was on the ground and handcuffed behind his back, then he REPEATEDLY begged the officer to get his knee off his neck because he couldn't breathe, then he was DEAD. AT NO TIME WAS THE OFFICERS LIFE IN DANGER.

Now tell me what you saw from the video.
Posted by GoneFishing21
Member since May 2017
3667 posts
Posted on 11/10/20 at 12:31 pm to
Interesting so he was on the ground with three officers on him because he was complying? They were on top of him because they were trying to control his movement. If he was complying he never would have been in the ground in the first place. I’ll ask you the same question. How long does it take to pass out from a choke or a knee on the back of the neck? Regardless of whether I think it was justified, you’re the one who tried to make the comparison between the George Floyd incident and the one with Koy Moore. You don’t appear to know what happened in either incident.
This post was edited on 11/10/20 at 12:34 pm
Posted by The First Cut
Member since Apr 2012
14773 posts
Posted on 11/10/20 at 12:39 pm to
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I do know at one point they had him in the back of the patrol car and chose to take him back out and kneel on the back of his neck and now he’s dead.


I don't think anyone can justify the kneeling on his back like they did; but, there's going to be riots everywhere when the officer get acquitted. Floyds' toxicology report showed that he had fatal levels of fentanyl in his system; which, surprise - causes constricted breathing. The FULL video, not the clips released to stir controversy, shows Floyd in the car before the event saying that he can't breathe.

The DA overcharged with going for murder. There will be acquittals.
Posted by Dominate308
South Florida
Member since Jan 2013
2895 posts
Posted on 11/10/20 at 12:41 pm to
I hear Koy is about to be sued by the officers. Stand by.
Posted by SUB
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Posted on 11/10/20 at 12:42 pm to
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he REPEATEDLY begged the officer to get his knee off his neck


Never happened.

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because he couldn't breathe


He said "I can't breathe" repeatedly well before he was on the ground. It's reasonable to believe the officer may have thought the knee to the neck had nothing to do with him saying that and had everything to do with some other internal issue Floyd had.

I'm not justifying the knee to the neck. I don't know anything about acceptable tactics to restrain / control someone under arrest.
This post was edited on 11/10/20 at 12:45 pm
Posted by GoneFishing21
Member since May 2017
3667 posts
Posted on 11/10/20 at 12:45 pm to
Details don’t matter. We have to ignore those to further the narrative
Posted by TeamLSU
Member since Feb 2009
3653 posts
Posted on 11/10/20 at 12:45 pm to
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You don’t appear to know what happened in either incident.




Never said I did know exactly what happened in either incident, I am doing the same exact thing you are, which is SPECULATING. And it doesn't fricking matter how long it takes to pass out from a knee to the neck, the actions of that officer was not JUSTIFIED. So the officer was so worried about Floyd he had one knee on his neck and his hand in his pocket.
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