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re: 247sports predicts LSU will be the most disappointing team in SEC
Posted on 4/10/18 at 11:16 am to Rickdaddy4188
Posted on 4/10/18 at 11:16 am to Rickdaddy4188
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saban's entire head coaching career wasnt built on shite losses.
Because Orgeron is being indicted because of his first year's results, this discussion centers on these coaches's FIRST year, not entire careers. But if you prefer, in fact, your statement implies then that a coach who in his first year lost to a DIV 2 team (ie Saban) and whose team suffered 4 losses (ie Saban) can indeed have a successful career AFTER that first year.
Other than the Troy game, which of Orgeron's losses were "shite losses" as you say?
Once again, what good does it serve to try to predict the future, especially when you have NO CONTROL over it and the negative BS is getting stale for the vast majority of fans? Put yourself in his position and give the guy a chance.
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Posted on 4/10/18 at 11:36 am to BayouBengals18
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So no coach had any success, yet Orgeron was the worst of the group. Legit.
At a shite program like Ole Miss--his lack of success there is meaningless.
Forget it. Orgeron IS your coach; you are not going to change it. For any coach, a team's fans can get behind him early on or spout self-fulfilling negativity that only causes harm to the program they so claim to support. GTF over it!
Posted on 4/10/18 at 11:40 am to whoyodaddy
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At a shite program like Ole Miss--his lack of success there is meaningless.
No it's not. It means that out of all the shitty coaches at that program, he's the shittiest.
Posted on 4/10/18 at 12:00 pm to beauchristopher
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I'd be disappointed in 9 wins
This. It's a fine line between ecstatic and disappointed. A 10-win season would feel a lot like 2010, although admittedly the reason why most of us remember that season as a great one was because we beat bama, but any 11-2 season with a cotton bowl win is something to be pumped about.
If he can bring us 10 wins he'll see a rejuvenated and more united fan base...aside from this board, of course.
This post was edited on 4/10/18 at 12:00 pm
Posted on 4/10/18 at 12:13 pm to Nix to Twillie
QB is the obvious ? Who will start and will they produce, that is imperative. They must get off to a good start for confidence purposes, but if Ensminger is gonna open up the offense like he's saying he will, gaining confidence shouldn't be a problem. LSU is deep at the WR position and whoever's QB'ing should be putting up great numbers in an wide open attack. LSU has always been loaded with talent, but the offenses have always been conservative at best, never having the kind of offense that would take advantage of all the talent that they have. So, this season will be really fun and exciting to watch if the ball is flying all over the place like Ensminger is promising. It will be thrilling to watch an LSU team doing to teams what we usually see other schools do to opponents early in the season when putting up crazy scores like 76-10. It's been long overdue!
This post was edited on 4/11/18 at 12:44 pm
Posted on 4/10/18 at 12:13 pm to whoyodaddy
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At a shite program like Ole Miss--his lack of success there is meaningless.
Houston Nutt came in and doubled O's winning percentage in 2 years. Sure OM has not been a great program, but are you happy to know that Nutt was twice the HC that O was?
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you are not going to change it.
Fan support or disdain is the leading cause of change. If unhappy fans quit spending money, the board will HAVE to get a new coach or fall flat on its face. whether you believe it or not, FANS hold all the cards.
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For any coach, a team's fans can get behind him early on or spout self-fulfilling negativity that only causes harm to the program they so claim to support. GTF over it!
If my bitching causes O to get fired, there is no way that could be a negative.
Posted on 4/10/18 at 1:03 pm to EXPLAYER
quote:Incase you missed the thread today, O is switching Chasen Hines (a defensive linemen in HS) into an offensive lineman
Talent yes Not as much as years before. Miles always had the best playmakers But the big uglies were never SEC worthy. Don't get me wrong we had some big ugglies but not nearly enough. How many times did Miles change a defensive lineman in HS into Offensive lineman once he got on campus.
Posted on 4/10/18 at 1:35 pm to SportTiger1
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my bitching causes O to get fired, there is no way that could be a negative.
So you're crystal clear that you hope your bitching aids in getting O fired. I do appreciate your honesty. Could I ask you what happened during this first season that led you to feel we should "cut bait" already? Or was it that you wanted a different coach from the start?
Posted on 4/10/18 at 4:49 pm to whoyodaddy
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10 wins in 2013 under Freeze.
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He's widely recognized as the biggest recruiting in the decade.
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So, I don't count that.
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But if you want to, great. Therefore you accept that OLE MISS has had 3 to win seasons over 55 seasons.
In your above quotes, I think you're trying to make the case of Freeze being a cheater when it came to recruiting. If that's the case, I agree with that 100%. And if you don't want to count that year, knock yourself out.
Perhaps some of the wins that Freeze got at Ole Miss have been vacated. I don't know if that's the case or not. But the site I went to to see their football history showed that they won 10 games in 2013. That's why I included it in my post.
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Therefore OLE MISS has had little success-even with cheating-over the last 55 years.
I didn't say anything about cheating in my post, but I certainly did say that Ole Miss has not had any consistent success for a long time.
Posted on 4/10/18 at 5:02 pm to whoyodaddy
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Could I ask you what happened during this first season that led you to feel we should "cut bait" already? Or was it that you wanted a different coach from the start?
I don't weigh a coaches ability on one year. Not with O, didn't with Canada, didn't with Crowton, etc. I look at entire resume and trends.
O's historic suckiness should've immediately given every LSU fan great pause and skepticism. Add in historic (and they were truly historic) losses at the beginning of the year, and that's enough for me.
Not to mention he is embarrassing as hell as the face of LSU.
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