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re: 247Sports grades LSU football’s coaching staff

Posted on 1/26/22 at 10:04 am to
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 1/26/22 at 10:04 am to
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tell you this, coming off the Mullen regime, I'd have been beyond pissed if we hired Brian Kelly, because that's who he reminds me of.


Except Kelly can recruit
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
29441 posts
Posted on 1/26/22 at 11:28 am to
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Kelly is not a one hit wonder like Napier.
Napier is not even a one hit wonder unless you’re counting the 1 conference title they had and lost to shitty teams. I mean, you play like shite against Arky State and lost to a TERRIBLE UT team, damn. Good luck UF with this. Just because someone may “sound like Saban” doesn’t mean he is or will have his success.

Just ask Ole Miss Baseball fans about Mike Bianco. That guy walks, talks and absolutely adopted Bertman’s style by being a PLAYER and ASSISTANT for him for 6 seasons including 3 titles. Hell, he even played Bertman’s old position!
What has he won at Ole Miss?
Posted by Sub Par SUPERSTAR
Florida
Member since Sep 2021
822 posts
Posted on 1/26/22 at 11:44 am to
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Except Kelly can recruit


Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
32376 posts
Posted on 1/26/22 at 12:04 pm to
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I promise you, and you can choose to believe me or not, that I am in no way "scared" of Brian Kelly at LSU. Brian Kelly will probably do well enough at LSU, but that's more a product of the situation than the coach. Brian Kelly seems like a bizarre fit, but he also seems like a good coach. I'll tell you this, coming off the Mullen regime, I'd have been beyond pissed if we hired Brian Kelly, because that's who he reminds me of.


This viewpoint doesn’t even remotely make sense and you couldn’t be more off base projecting your previous coach’s failures onto someone else. Kelly and his staff at ND were consistently in the top 10-15 in recruiting at a school that values academics without giving student athletes the level of special assistance that big P5 programs do. He did better than the post-Holz average there in recruiting over a long period.

On the flip side, Mullen was always a below average recruiter, going back to his time at State. You guys knew what you were getting when you hired him. If you didn’t, then you are just ignorant. He demonstrated the exact same level of commitment to recruiting at UF that he did at State and produced only modestly better rankings.

We only have a small sample size, but Kelly came here as an outsider and immediately made the best hires possible to lock down LA recruiting. Recruiting was obviously a priority across the entire staff, which is absolutely nothing like what you guys had in old Dan. I’m just not sure where you can logically draw any legitimate comparisons here. These two guys have a ton of track record available and NONE of it is even remotely similar.
This post was edited on 1/26/22 at 12:25 pm
Posted by Rand AlThor
Member since Jan 2014
10348 posts
Posted on 1/26/22 at 12:17 pm to
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1. Florida A+


Sunbelt coach
Posted by Brendoni
Oklahoma City, Ok
Member since Apr 2009
22012 posts
Posted on 1/26/22 at 12:36 pm to
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Not trolling at all. Kelly has zero impressive wins at Notre Dame. (Clemson doesn't count, they were without Lawrence. And they smothered ND with a pillow in the rematch when he returned.) Notre Dame played an "independent" schedule, and got put into big games while he was there because it was Notre Dame. They never belonged. Both playoff games and the BCS championship game he got obliterated. Mullen winning at Mississippi State with the consistency he did was incredible.


Mullen didn’t do anything special at State, no matter how much you continue to tell yourself he did. Also, expanding on Brian Kelly’s coaching career, did you forget that he took Cincinnati to two BCS Bowls? Did Mullen ever do that? In Mullen best year, the lost to Alabama, Ole Miss and Georgia Tech. But anyway man, why you continue to come on an LSU board and troll is beyond me. Go talk about that shite on a Florida board.
Posted by Sub Par SUPERSTAR
Florida
Member since Sep 2021
822 posts
Posted on 1/26/22 at 12:43 pm to
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Sunbelt coach


Who wouldn't wanna play for this totally relatable, cool cat!

What a total badass.
Posted by Sub Par SUPERSTAR
Florida
Member since Sep 2021
822 posts
Posted on 1/26/22 at 12:51 pm to
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LSU board


It's a fair point. Except, y'all keep running your mouths about our coach, so I feel like I have a right to counter. You could just be happy with your guy, we're happy with ours, but y'all continue bringing up Nape's name like it's a part time job, so I'm gonna keep defending him.
Posted by Brendoni
Oklahoma City, Ok
Member since Apr 2009
22012 posts
Posted on 1/26/22 at 12:57 pm to
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but y'all continue bringing up Nape's name like it's a part time job, so I'm gonna keep defending him


Probably because some wanted him and some didn’t. I wanted LSU to hire him, but at the time I had no idea that Kelly was being considered. I personally think LSU got a better coach, but that isn’t a knock on Napier.
Posted by deuce985
Member since Feb 2008
27660 posts
Posted on 1/26/22 at 1:09 pm to
You have not given a single logically response how you can rank Florida ahead of LSU.

I will fully give Florida credit they have done some outstanding moves on their staff but it's not better than LSU because your situation is completely unknown. It's objectively better from LSU simply because BK has already rebuilt 2 programs from the dust, he has been in the playoffs, and he has a NC appearance. He had handicaps at Notre Dame. ND fans will tell you he's not their best coach but what they don't understand is this isn't 40 years ago. It's a different era than ever and those handicaps really hold ND down. Napier hasn't even sniffed anything close to that.

I like Napier btw, I think he'll be a great coach for you guys but right now these rankings are just flexing their dick trying to be like "I told you so" and when they're wrong, let it disappear. Right now on paper LSU is the A+ especially how we've hit the portal and made backup hires for the admin behind the coaching staff. Florida has made similar great moves here but Napier puts you under LSU in itself because he's unproven.
This post was edited on 1/26/22 at 1:11 pm
Posted by justice
Member since Feb 2006
55383 posts
Posted on 1/26/22 at 1:09 pm to
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Billy Napier and his staff will recruit circles around Brian Kelly
what? Lol. Frank Wilson, Cain, polian laugh their balls off at this lol
Posted by deuce985
Member since Feb 2008
27660 posts
Posted on 1/26/22 at 1:12 pm to
You're trolling if you think they can recruit circles around LSU's staff. LSU has a comparable staff on the recruiting end. For you it's going to be harder to come into Louisiana and take a recruit rather than LSU keep them here. Distance by itself will work against Florida. You may get 1 here or there but you better mind the home front first otherwise all that talent will leave.
Posted by Sub Par SUPERSTAR
Florida
Member since Sep 2021
822 posts
Posted on 1/26/22 at 1:12 pm to
And there's also that element of wanting people to "acknowledge how good of a job we did with our hires". We both did well. We both got guys who will probably get the job done, but at the same time have things to be concerned about. We don't have to talk trash about other schools hires to feel good about ours.
Posted by FreddieMac
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
24831 posts
Posted on 1/26/22 at 1:14 pm to
I love how all these people from outside of Louisiana is trying to tell us how bad a cultural fit BK is for Baton Rouge.

People in Louisiana are like


I really do not get what they mean by that?
This post was edited on 1/26/22 at 1:17 pm
Posted by Porkchop Express
Penderbrook
Member since Aug 2014
3961 posts
Posted on 1/26/22 at 1:21 pm to
The fact that USC shite canned Helton not even halfway through the season, he then gets hired by Georgia Southern, and subsequently gets an -A shows how much of a joke this article is.

USC and LSU have assembled the best staffs top to bottom. Oklahoma also did a very nice job.
Posted by deuce985
Member since Feb 2008
27660 posts
Posted on 1/26/22 at 1:37 pm to
Florida has done a nice job as well.
Posted by T Lasso
Member since Aug 2021
486 posts
Posted on 1/26/22 at 2:14 pm to
Napier is a VSO - "Very shiny object"

completely unproven, but lots of upside and people love him

perfect for media to rally around
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
29441 posts
Posted on 1/26/22 at 4:57 pm to
Are you an idiot? I mean you have to be trolling now.
If you want to play the game, not only did BK have more success at a P5, he had it at a G5 with Cincinnati.
Geez dude. Their resumes are not comparable.

Napier had 1 successful season at uSl. Dude has a staff that isn’t close to what BK brought in as far as recruiting.
Frank Wilson is La High School Recruiting in NOLA/BR. Hankton is already making a shite load of head way. Let LSU get NIL fixed…
“I'm excited for coach House and all of tiger nation!” Mathieu tweeted. “This man loves football & teaching! One of the best I've been around.”
Posted by Sub Par SUPERSTAR
Florida
Member since Sep 2021
822 posts
Posted on 1/26/22 at 5:56 pm to
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Their resumes are not comparable.


LOL, K.

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has a staff that isn’t close to what BK brought in as far as recruiting.


Posted by Brendoni
Oklahoma City, Ok
Member since Apr 2009
22012 posts
Posted on 1/26/22 at 6:10 pm to
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And there's also that element of wanting people to "acknowledge how good of a job we did with our hires


Not me, I really don’t care what other teams fans think. I personally think Kelly will be more successful then Miles and Orgeron. I could be wrong, and if so, we’ll find out. The man’s been extremely successful everywhere he’s been. Notre Dame has a good program, by the fact is they have numerous things working against them, when it comes ti recruiting. Kelly will more resources than he’s ever had, as a head coach.
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