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re: 2025 is the year of no excuses
Posted on 12/27/24 at 6:42 pm to BigBrod81
Posted on 12/27/24 at 6:42 pm to BigBrod81
I don't give a shite what Green, Pavia, and Arnold did in other games. I witnessed what the speed they had in the LSU game. They were not fast QBs in the LSU game. If Green had a bad ankle, that is fine...doesn't effect what I said at all.
Also, where did I mention that the speedy QBs got their yardage on scrambles? Oh yeah, I didn't. Obviously, they were called runs or option runs. Reed nor Sellars even attempted to pass on their runs. Milroe pretended maybe to pass. Why should they even attempt a pass when they aren't good passers...just run the ball. I agree with the "gap integrity" but as I've mentioned multiple times already, you give 0 gaps to begin with. With these mediocre passers to be kind, you simply rush a minimum of 5 and usually 6 and force them to beat you passing. You cut off the running channels...I seriously doubt they are good enough to pass to beat you and you also make them make incredibly quick decisions. The last thing you do IMO is to "try to contain" them because they simply run past/around the "contain" guys.
Also, where did I mention that the speedy QBs got their yardage on scrambles? Oh yeah, I didn't. Obviously, they were called runs or option runs. Reed nor Sellars even attempted to pass on their runs. Milroe pretended maybe to pass. Why should they even attempt a pass when they aren't good passers...just run the ball. I agree with the "gap integrity" but as I've mentioned multiple times already, you give 0 gaps to begin with. With these mediocre passers to be kind, you simply rush a minimum of 5 and usually 6 and force them to beat you passing. You cut off the running channels...I seriously doubt they are good enough to pass to beat you and you also make them make incredibly quick decisions. The last thing you do IMO is to "try to contain" them because they simply run past/around the "contain" guys.
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Posted on 12/27/24 at 7:20 pm to NotaStarGazer
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But 3) is highly questionable.
Returns with experience on offense:
1. Garrett Nussmeier
2. Cade Durham
3. Aaron Anderson
4. Zavion Thomas
5. Trey'Dez Green
6. Kyle Parker*
7. Chris Hilton*
8. Ju'Juan Johnson**
Returns with experience on defense:
1. Whit Weeks
2. Dominick McKinley
3. Harold Perkins*
4. PJ Woodland
5. Javien Toviano
6. Davhon Keys
7. Jacobian Guillory
8. Ahmad Breaux
9. Shone Washington
* Needs to stay healthy & available
** Unsure of position for 2025
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We don't know the game talent for the OL since LSU lost 4 of the 5 starters
There have been 2 experienced starters added for the 2025 offensive line which includes Moore at center. Adding one of the best centers in the country at the quarterback position of the offensive line is possibly the most important pick up in the portal.
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people dump on the returning starter...at least at his returning position of C.
DJ Chester is not going to be the starting center in 2025. Plus tRant has a terrible history of stating that's its impossible for young inexperienced players to grow & get better. Nobody with any sense cares about those people or what they have to say. Adams, Chester & Mubenga got much valuable reps & playing time despite their trials & tribulations in 2024.
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Also, where is the experience at safety. We don't even know the safety talent, much less the experience at those spots.
Toviano is moving to safety permanently. There has been talk of Jackson, the Florida transfer possibly playing some safety as well. Kelly specifically mentioned last week that they were targeting a backend defender (safety) who is still playing in the playoffs. Sage Ryan departure is an addition by subtraction.
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being able to run the football. LSU has proven 0 ability to run the football this season. Durham and Alexander were fine...the run blocking was a disaster.
Improved interior line play will open up the run game which will mean better run lanes for Durham, Jackson, Berry & possibly Holly. But who the frick is Alexander?
Posted on 12/27/24 at 7:27 pm to NotaStarGazer
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I don't give a shite what Green, Pavia, and Arnold did in other games.
Of course you don't because it exposes your uneducated, incorrect, BS narrative.
For example, Pavia had 176 carries in 2024 for 716 yards & 6 TDs but he isn't a "running" QB according to you.
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Obviously, they were called runs or option runs. Reed nor Sellars even attempted to pass on their runs. Milroe pretended maybe to pass. Why should they even attempt a pass when they aren't good passers...just run the ball.
Because I mentioned specific QB run design plays & you went to incoherently rambling about "speed" yet every offense & every QB mentioned ran each & everyone of those plays that I mentioned. Yet again, the LSU defense success with stopping Pavia & Arnold doesn't fit your uneducated, incorrect, BS narrative.
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The last thing you do IMO is to "try to contain" them because they simply run past/around the "contain" guys.
Oh my
This post was edited on 12/27/24 at 7:33 pm
Posted on 12/27/24 at 7:27 pm to BigBrod81
Meant Williams not Alexander. Toviano has proven nothing up to this point at any position.. Shone Washington has proven nothing at DT. I cut Mubenga some slack because he was a soccer player who started playing football late in HS. Anyway, you said improved OL play would help the running game. 
Hard to argue with that but your assumption is very questionable to begin with that the OL will be better run blockers. Experience doesn't translate to talent so I will stick with my comment that your original 3) right now is very problematic. Safety was the weakest unit on defense, and OL was the weakest unit on offense.
Hard to argue with that but your assumption is very questionable to begin with that the OL will be better run blockers. Experience doesn't translate to talent so I will stick with my comment that your original 3) right now is very problematic. Safety was the weakest unit on defense, and OL was the weakest unit on offense.Posted on 12/27/24 at 7:33 pm to louisianamotocross
We are not winning it unless Nuss agrees or is allowed to keep it at least a couple of times a game. No offense works as it should when it is 11 against 10 like it was this year.
And I mean running it from the snap on a running play, not the type of running when someone is not open or the pocket collapses on a pass play.
And I mean running it from the snap on a running play, not the type of running when someone is not open or the pocket collapses on a pass play.
Posted on 12/27/24 at 7:34 pm to superwolf
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We are not winning it unless Nuss agrees or is allowed to keep it
He’s allowed
He just needs to do it more
Posted on 12/27/24 at 7:39 pm to BigBrod81
Nooooo, the ? was about LSU's defense against running QBs. My points are accurate and you started off on a tangent about how they played against other teams. Stay on topic, a-hole! BTW, quit LYING about what I said about Pavia. I NEVER said he couldn't run, idiot! I said he was NOT a speed demon runner which he is NOT BTW. LSU stopped Pavia and Arnold because those QBs couldn't run away from LSU defenders. I'm beginning to think you don't even watch LSU football games. You can't comprehend the simplest differences between QBs. Guy, just quit responding to my posts since every reply is irrelevant, a lie to what I said, or simply the response of a football virgin.
Posted on 12/27/24 at 7:41 pm to NotaStarGazer
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Anyway, you said improved OL play would help the running game. ? Hard to argue with that but your assumption is very questionable to begin with that the OL will be better run blockers.
Successful teams are solid up the middle on offense & defense. QB & C on offense. DT, MLB & safeties on defense. Solidifying the center position alone will lead to a better rushing attack despite anything you say.
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Experience doesn't translate to talent
I didn't say anything about experience = talent. I said specifically said experienced talent. There's a difference. According to you Will Campbell & Emory Jones should have never started as true freshmen in 2022 because they neither were talented nor experienced.
Posted on 12/27/24 at 7:45 pm to NotaStarGazer
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Nooooo, the ? was about LSU's defense against running QBs. My points are accurate and you started off on a tangent about how they played against other teams. Stay on topic, a-hole! BTW, quit LYING about what I said about Pavia. I NEVER said he couldn't run, idiot! I said he was NOT a speed demon runner which he is NOT BTW. LSU stopped Pavia and Arnold because those QBs couldn't run away from LSU defenders. I'm beginning to think you don't even watch LSU football games. You can't comprehend the simplest differences between QBs. Guy, just quit responding to my posts since every reply is irrelevant, a lie to what I said, or simply the response of a football virgin.
Nice melt there along with more uneducated, incorrect, incoherent, BS
Posted on 12/27/24 at 7:46 pm to BigBrod81
"3. Returning, experience talent offensively & defensively check"
Once again, 3) is a HUGE assumption. There is no "experience talent" along the OL....0! And the exact same issue with the safeties on defense. You also assumed that the center position will be improved blocking-wise. Obviously, a different center should be able to have fewer snap infractions but the Va Tech center may or may not be better at blocking. He played in the weak ACC vs LSU having to block SEC DL.
You still ASSUME LSU will improve the running game with 0 evidence to support your theory.
Once again, 3) is a HUGE assumption. There is no "experience talent" along the OL....0! And the exact same issue with the safeties on defense. You also assumed that the center position will be improved blocking-wise. Obviously, a different center should be able to have fewer snap infractions but the Va Tech center may or may not be better at blocking. He played in the weak ACC vs LSU having to block SEC DL.
You still ASSUME LSU will improve the running game with 0 evidence to support your theory.
Posted on 12/27/24 at 7:48 pm to BigBrod81
Yeah, just post a cartoon which all your other text "points" are total failures. You either don't watch football very much or don't understand it. Typical football virgin making asinine predictions with 0 evidence to back it up. 
Posted on 12/27/24 at 7:48 pm to louisianamotocross
Expectations of Louisianamotocross keeping BK up at night....
Posted on 12/27/24 at 7:54 pm to superwolf
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We are not winning it unless Nuss agrees or is allowed to keep it at least a couple of times a game. No offense works as it should when it is 11 against 10 like it was this year
Yeah, as I said LSU is totally wasting a "run option" because you, I, and everyone knows that Nussmeier is NEVER going to keep the ball. That is fine but just hand the ball off or pitch it to the RB. That would speed up the play and allow the OL to have to maintain their blocks for a shorter amount of time.
Posted on 12/27/24 at 8:05 pm to NotaStarGazer
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There is no "experience talent" along the OL....0!
Tyree Adams 4*
Weston Davis 4*
Coen Echols 4*
DJ Chester 4*
LSU has plenty of talent in terms of portal additions & returning players. It's going to be which players fit better together & play as an unit.
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Va Tech center may or may not be better at blocking. He played in the weak ACC vs LSU having to block SEC DL.
This is something only a shite poster would say. You are obviously a shite poster who doesn't know what the frick you are talking about.
Posted on 12/27/24 at 8:06 pm to NotaStarGazer
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Yeah, just post a cartoon which all your other text "points" are total failures. You either don't watch football very much or don't understand it. Typical football virgin making asinine predictions with 0 evidence to back it up.
Posted on 12/27/24 at 8:07 pm to NotaStarGazer
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Perkins played in the 2023 Alabama game and couldn't stop Milroe. BTW, there is more than just being able to catch a QB or anyone else running with the football...you have to be able to tackle that player. Perkins has had trouble in the past with his tackling. Ross is a TR FR who last I saw weighed less than 200 pounds. The key to stopping mobile QBs is not individual players but to cut off the running lanes so the speedy QBs can't get a running start into the secondary. Neither House nor Baker seemed to have figured that out in their years as DCs.
Ppl who blame Perkins or say he failed to stop Milroe last year respectably don’t understand how defensive schemes work. Perkins did not spy Milroe hardly at all that game. Matt house is clueless and more often than not dropped him into coverage which lead to Milroe running wild. Perkins didn’t start spying till the 4th quarter when the game was basically over. Charles Ross also put on weight as a senior he’s up to 210 pds
Posted on 12/27/24 at 8:15 pm to louisianamotocross
It takes a lot more than talent to win a championship. It also takes good coaching, hard work and good fortune. It all has to line up. There is an extremely good chance we don’t win it all but we need to compete for one and not lose 4 games this year.
Posted on 12/27/24 at 8:38 pm to BigBrod81
Hey a-hole, the Moore commit is OLD news. Who else did LSU get? And on 247 sports, he is the 11th rated OL....5th IOL. And he is rated a low 4* by 247 sports. And once again, playing in the ACC is not the same as playing in the SEC. BTW, all of a sudden you switched to "talent" in your sentence...before it was "experienced talent". Of the 4 you listed only Chester has significant experience at all, and you know what the posters here think of Chester...not good BTW.
The more you try to make excuses for your 3) ridiculous "check", the more you prove to be a football virgin!
The more you try to make excuses for your 3) ridiculous "check", the more you prove to be a football virgin!
Posted on 12/27/24 at 8:40 pm to BigBrod81
Can't handle me calling you out for the crappy poster you are! Yeah, just keep posting GIFs and cartoons. They actually make more sense than your vacuous posts!
Posted on 12/27/24 at 8:47 pm to Cd104
As I've said before, "a spy" is the most overrated defensive strategy there is. If it was so great, more teams would use it...they don't. One of the problems with a spy is the defensive player is always at least one step behind the one being shadowed. I liken it to man-to-man defense on a WR when almost 100% of the time, the CB starts off trailing the WR. But in pass defense you can recover. Using a spy on a running QB you aren't going to make up that ground if he is as fast as you are. A spy would work on Arnold or Pavia because they aren't super fast. A spy wouldn't work on Reed, Sellars, or Milroe...simply too fast. The best defense against them is to keep them from getting started to begin with...aka clog up the running lanes.
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