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2023 poll position compared to 2024 . . . Voice of Reason.
Posted on 8/13/24 at 12:30 pm
Posted on 8/13/24 at 12:30 pm
2023 Preseason Ranking = #5
2023 Final Ranking = #12
When you enter the year No.5, and then your QB wins the Heisman with two first-round pick receivers, you win the national title . . . unless your defensive backfield is soooo bad that you go backwards in the rankings to finish #12.
2024 Preseason Ranking = #12
2024 Final Ranking = ???
- The majority of the defensive backfield is the same.
- We don't have Daniels, Nabers, and Thomas to make up for the defense.
The absolute ceiling is 9 wins, but the floor could be as low as 6 wins.
A lot must go right to finish ranked:
- The QB and receivers must prove to have been better than the people they were backing up last year, despite the fact that they were backups and the same age or older as the guys ahead of them.
- We must hit the double jackpot in hiring the "next great young offensive/defensive coordinator minds" -- despite their small sample sizes and it being a roll of the dice.
- The defensive backs must have magically gained instincts that enhance tackling and ball skills.
2023 Final Ranking = #12
When you enter the year No.5, and then your QB wins the Heisman with two first-round pick receivers, you win the national title . . . unless your defensive backfield is soooo bad that you go backwards in the rankings to finish #12.
2024 Preseason Ranking = #12
2024 Final Ranking = ???
- The majority of the defensive backfield is the same.
- We don't have Daniels, Nabers, and Thomas to make up for the defense.
The absolute ceiling is 9 wins, but the floor could be as low as 6 wins.
A lot must go right to finish ranked:
- The QB and receivers must prove to have been better than the people they were backing up last year, despite the fact that they were backups and the same age or older as the guys ahead of them.
- We must hit the double jackpot in hiring the "next great young offensive/defensive coordinator minds" -- despite their small sample sizes and it being a roll of the dice.
- The defensive backs must have magically gained instincts that enhance tackling and ball skills.
This post was edited on 12/1/24 at 3:14 pm
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Posted on 8/13/24 at 12:31 pm to DaCajun1
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The majority of the defensive backfield is the same.
No its not.
Posted on 8/13/24 at 12:32 pm to DaCajun1
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The absolute ceiling is 9 wins
No it's not.
Posted on 8/13/24 at 12:36 pm to DaCajun1
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The absolute ceiling is 9 wins
I disagree, I think the ceiling is 10 regular season wins. We will most likely split with OM and Bama (would love to beat them both) and I think we lose to one of either Arky, A&M or UF just because of where they fall on the schedule.
Posted on 8/13/24 at 12:40 pm to DaCajun1
quote:
The absolute ceiling is 9 wins, but the floor could be as low as 6 wins.
Posted on 8/13/24 at 12:42 pm to DaCajun1
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A lot must go right to finish ranked:
Idk what tf you’re babbling about here.
This team should absolutely be 9-3 or 10-2. If they drop USC game, I’ll change my tone. 10-2 with a playoff berth is my expectation
Posted on 8/13/24 at 12:42 pm to DaCajun1
The absolute ceiling is 9 wins?
You sir, are a frickin idiot
You sir, are a frickin idiot
Posted on 8/13/24 at 12:56 pm to DaCajun1
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The absolute ceiling is 9 wins, but the floor could be as low as 6 wins.
I’ve just informed Coach Kelly and the team of your take. They all agree and have decided it’d be best to not even play the games and get an early start on next offseason
This post was edited on 8/13/24 at 12:57 pm
Posted on 8/13/24 at 12:57 pm to DaCajun1
It’s just my opinion but this is a pretty terrible analysis. You can’t say the ABSOLUTE ceiling is 9 wins no matter what when we are favored in 11/12 games + only a 1 point dog in the other. This team could win all 12. Although I think most likely is 10-2 and will surprise some people. While teams like Ole Miss and Missouri will disappoint.
Posted on 8/13/24 at 12:57 pm to lsudave1
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I disagree, I think the ceiling is 10 regular season wins. We will most likely split with OM and Bama (would love to beat them both) and I think we lose to one of either Arky, A&M or UF just because of where they fall on the schedule.
Why do you think we split Ole Miss and Bama??
We them both coming off byes. We should be fresh for both games that are at home.
Posted on 8/13/24 at 1:01 pm to DaCajun1
I get that you’re apprehensive about improving from last year based on personnel turnover, but you can’t unequivocally say the “absolute” ceiling is 9 wins and then call yourself the voice of reason.
You sound like a barstool loudmouth who would rather be right than see their team win.
You sound like a barstool loudmouth who would rather be right than see their team win.
Posted on 8/13/24 at 1:04 pm to DaCajun1
Well, aren’t you just a ray of sunshine.
Posted on 8/13/24 at 1:05 pm to DaCajun1
Stupid shite analysis here.
Posted on 8/13/24 at 1:06 pm to DaCajun1
We will still have damn good WR's. I think big part of JD5's success was his ability to roll out and run. Nuss can sling it as well but will not have the dynamic of rolling out and taking off so overall offensive numbers will shrink.
Defense has to get better. It's statistically almost a guarantee.
Defense has to get better. It's statistically almost a guarantee.
Posted on 8/13/24 at 1:06 pm to DaCajun1
Your "logic" incorrectly assumes all of the variables outside of LSU from 2023 will remain the same in 2024. They won't.
Aside from that, LSU defensive backfield alone wasn't the reason the defense was so bad. It wasn't. It was a combination of many things. This year the entire defensive staff is new...which means the scheme/approach from 2023 will be entirely different. That alone could (and likely will) bring about some level of improvement.
Certainly, no one expects the offense to be as explosive as it was last year. But there is reason to believe it could still be solid. If LSU can land somewhere in the top 25 in total offense and top 40-60 in total defense, they should have a chance to win every game (not saying they will).
But this defense can't improve that much!!!!
Last year these were the teams power conf. teams ranked between 40-60 in total defense: Arkansas, Miss. St, Duke, Oregon St, Arizona, Minnesota, Auburn, Iowa St, Illinois, Purdue. Do you really believe LSU has significantly less talent than those teams?
Setting aside that LSU 2024 is a different team from 2023, so are the opponents on LSU's schedule...as are the venues in which the games will be played.
LSU opens with USC. There may not be a better mirror image for LSU than USC. HC with a prior history of great success at another power conf. school going into his third year; Both replacing Heisman trophy winning QBs.; Both had NC hopes last year dashed by a horrible defense. Both have new defensive staffs. I'm not saying LSU WILL win that game? But why can't they?
If LSU can beat USC, where are the absolute 3 losses coming from?
LSU is at South Carolina, Florida, A&M, Arkansas. Every one of those teams was picked to finish in the bottom half of the SEC. Is it unreasonable to believe LSU could go 3-1 against that group?
The home games are Ole Miss, Alabama, Vandy, Oklahoma. Setting aside the general homefield advantage, Ole Miss hasn't won in BR since 2008. Alabama is without Nick Saban. OU will come into the LSU game at the end of a stretch where they play @ Ole Miss, (Maine), @ Missouri, Alabama. Vandy is Vandy. Is it unreasonable to think LSU could go 3-1 in those four?
Beat USC, win the other non-conf games at home, go 3-1 (road), 3-1 (home) = 10-2.
Will that happen? We'll see. But to say the ceiling is 9 wins simply because the DBs were bad last seasons ignores dozens of other variables that have changed since last year
Aside from that, LSU defensive backfield alone wasn't the reason the defense was so bad. It wasn't. It was a combination of many things. This year the entire defensive staff is new...which means the scheme/approach from 2023 will be entirely different. That alone could (and likely will) bring about some level of improvement.
Certainly, no one expects the offense to be as explosive as it was last year. But there is reason to believe it could still be solid. If LSU can land somewhere in the top 25 in total offense and top 40-60 in total defense, they should have a chance to win every game (not saying they will).
But this defense can't improve that much!!!!
Last year these were the teams power conf. teams ranked between 40-60 in total defense: Arkansas, Miss. St, Duke, Oregon St, Arizona, Minnesota, Auburn, Iowa St, Illinois, Purdue. Do you really believe LSU has significantly less talent than those teams?
Setting aside that LSU 2024 is a different team from 2023, so are the opponents on LSU's schedule...as are the venues in which the games will be played.
LSU opens with USC. There may not be a better mirror image for LSU than USC. HC with a prior history of great success at another power conf. school going into his third year; Both replacing Heisman trophy winning QBs.; Both had NC hopes last year dashed by a horrible defense. Both have new defensive staffs. I'm not saying LSU WILL win that game? But why can't they?
If LSU can beat USC, where are the absolute 3 losses coming from?
LSU is at South Carolina, Florida, A&M, Arkansas. Every one of those teams was picked to finish in the bottom half of the SEC. Is it unreasonable to believe LSU could go 3-1 against that group?
The home games are Ole Miss, Alabama, Vandy, Oklahoma. Setting aside the general homefield advantage, Ole Miss hasn't won in BR since 2008. Alabama is without Nick Saban. OU will come into the LSU game at the end of a stretch where they play @ Ole Miss, (Maine), @ Missouri, Alabama. Vandy is Vandy. Is it unreasonable to think LSU could go 3-1 in those four?
Beat USC, win the other non-conf games at home, go 3-1 (road), 3-1 (home) = 10-2.
Will that happen? We'll see. But to say the ceiling is 9 wins simply because the DBs were bad last seasons ignores dozens of other variables that have changed since last year
Posted on 8/13/24 at 1:11 pm to DaCajun1
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The absolute ceiling is 9 wins
We may very well win only 9 games, but it is 100% wrong that it’s the “absolute ceiling”
It would be more appropriate to say that the most likely outcome for the season is 9 wins.
This post was edited on 8/13/24 at 1:23 pm
Posted on 8/13/24 at 1:14 pm to WaydownSouth
Good point. That is good for us.
Posted on 8/13/24 at 4:18 pm to DaCajun1
Never cook again, this is one of the most autistic things ive ever seen
Posted on 8/13/24 at 4:46 pm to DaCajun1
Who let Eeyore in the room?
Posted on 8/13/24 at 4:50 pm to DaCajun1
Listen baw....Your logic is that of an 8th grader.
Here is a real voice of reason. Vegas has us as favorites in 11 of 12 games we play..... with the one game we aren't favored we sit +2 dogs at A&M.
So just let the experts determine our ceiling and you stick to NCAA 25.
Here is a real voice of reason. Vegas has us as favorites in 11 of 12 games we play..... with the one game we aren't favored we sit +2 dogs at A&M.
So just let the experts determine our ceiling and you stick to NCAA 25.
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