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re: 2015: Finished 10*-3 and the AD attempted to fire the head coach
Posted on 12/5/18 at 3:01 pm to Lonnie4LSU
Posted on 12/5/18 at 3:01 pm to Lonnie4LSU
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I don't know how anyone can say our expectations haven't been lowered with a straight face.
I agree. Things have certainly changed since Miles was fired and o was hired.
And the people that use to shite all over seasons where we won 9 games or more and now treating 9 win seasons like they're excellent accomplishments.
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Posted on 12/5/18 at 3:03 pm to bencoleman
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So now that we've established that coach O is doing better than Les why does all of these arguments have to be rehashed on a daily basis.
3 losses for Miles was underachieving
3 losses for O has you beating your chest.
That's funny.
Posted on 12/5/18 at 3:06 pm to Rickdaddy4188
I will never be understand the rationale that if Coach O is doing better than a coach that was fired, then that's a good job.
Posted on 12/5/18 at 3:08 pm to earl keese
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agree. Things have certainly changed since Miles was fired and o was hired.
And the people that use to shite all over seasons where we won 9 games or more and now treating 9 win seasons like they're excellent accomplishments.
Its glorious watching people act like player execution isnt a direct reflection of coaching after years of saying execution is a direct reflection of coaching.
3 losses in 2015= miles is the only thing holding lsu back from winning titles
3 lossed in 2018= these lsu players arent good. We have good coaching we just dont have the players.
Posted on 12/5/18 at 3:09 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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That's funny
It would be funny if it wasn't so sad.
"Miles and his shitty offenses are destroying LSU football'
"o did a remarkable job the last two years winning 9 games" and "never mind how bad the offense was, we won 9 regular season games and wins are all that matters"
Posted on 12/5/18 at 3:09 pm to TigerLunatik
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will never be understand the rationale that if Coach O is doing better than a coach that was fired, then that's a good job.
The ad that said 3 losses wasnt good enough is actually saying 3 losses is good because he knows his job is tied to the HC.
We have a clown ad.
Posted on 12/5/18 at 3:13 pm to Rickdaddy4188
I get what Alleva was trying to do, but I completely disagree with him using media expectations as any kind of barometer of success. I thought he really came across looking like a clown with his statement.
Posted on 12/5/18 at 4:41 pm to lsupride87
3 double digit losses with Fornette and guice vs 1 double digit and 2 single digit losses without either... NY6 bowl... better season
Posted on 12/5/18 at 5:02 pm to jackieMoon55
This season would feel worse than it does now were it not for the Fiesta Bowl berth. Now take into account that had the Orange Bowl not been part of the CFP this year, Syracuse would be sitting in our NY6 spot. We may have overachieved this year in the eyes of many but the Fiesta Bowl is fools gold and not a true indicator of our success.
Posted on 12/5/18 at 5:23 pm to earl keese
“ things have changed”
Replacing a coach is always a gamble, but when you replace a successful coach who is still recruiting top 10 classes and producing nationally ranked teams, the gamble is magnified times 10.
Three years after the change and we are not moving closer to the goal of a west title, but further away. Three years later and we have not produced a better offense, but a worse one.
Replacing a coach is always a gamble, but when you replace a successful coach who is still recruiting top 10 classes and producing nationally ranked teams, the gamble is magnified times 10.
Three years after the change and we are not moving closer to the goal of a west title, but further away. Three years later and we have not produced a better offense, but a worse one.
Posted on 12/5/18 at 5:25 pm to jackieMoon55
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3 double digit losses with Fornette and guice vs 1 double digit and 2 single digit losses without either... NY6 bowl... better season
Posted on 12/5/18 at 5:49 pm to jackieMoon55
Brandon Harris wants to know why you left him out of your equation. So does Kevin Steele.
Posted on 12/5/18 at 6:08 pm to LNCHBOX
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Brandon Harris wants to know why you left him out of your equation. So does Kevin Steele.
Harris: 2165yds, 13/6 TD/INT and 53.8%
Burrow: 2500 yds 12/4 TD/INT and 57.4%
Steele's D: 347yds allowed and 22.4 ppg
Aranda's D: 346yds allowed and 20.9 ppg
CEH/Brossette: 1548yds 4.5ypc
Fournette: 1953yds 6.5ypc (Giuce and Williams chipped in another 732 yds 6.6ypc)
Posted on 12/5/18 at 6:32 pm to jackieMoon55
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3 double digit losses with Fornette and guice vs 1 double digit and 2 single digit losses without
I guess that makes Les the better recruiter.
What about our QB in 2015? You think he was any better than what we had this year? You think Arkansas and Old Miss were any better in 2015 than this year?
The only thing O has changed is that LSU is not expected to win every game, besides Alabama, it plays. Now, its we don't have talent or we have injuries or Alabama is a professional team so O losing 63-10 in his three tries is to be expected.
Now, we cant beat Saban or Mullen or Jimbo, but we comin and having a great season.
Posted on 12/5/18 at 6:41 pm to WestSideTiger
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Now take into account that had the Orange Bowl not been part of the CFP this year, Syracuse would be sitting in our NY6 spot. We may have overachieved this year in the eyes of many but the Fiesta Bowl is fools gold and not a true indicator of our success.
in a thread full of desperate takes and spin jobs, this fits right in
Posted on 12/5/18 at 6:43 pm to BayouCowboy
Clearly Ed's O is worse than predecessor 
Posted on 12/5/18 at 6:47 pm to Mayhawman
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Clearly Ed's O is worse than predecessor
How so? Les had the benefit of having the highest ranked recruit in LSU history and the 2nd highest RB recruit in CFB ranking history (.0001 behind Joe McKnight).
If you put any stock in rankings Harris was a .9651 and Burrow was .9003. Burrow was a lot closer to Etling at .8996. It's surprising Harris wasn't used more in the run game. Burrow has been utilized more.
This post was edited on 12/5/18 at 7:00 pm
Posted on 12/5/18 at 6:48 pm to LNCHBOX
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Brandon Harris wants to know why you left him out of your equation.
He wasn't a walk on. He was a dual threat QB signed to run a 1950's style offense. Perhaps that is something that you left out of the equation.
Posted on 12/5/18 at 7:39 pm to jimmy the leg
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He wasn't a walk on. He was a dual threat QB signed to run a 1950's style offense. Perhaps that is something that you left out of the equation.
That 1950's offense is better than anything this regime has done.
2015 we finished above ohio state, bama, and fsu( when they were good) in offensive points per game and offensive yards per game.
Posted on 12/5/18 at 7:47 pm to Lonnie4LSU
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Replacing a coach is always a gamble, but when you replace a successful coach who is still recruiting top 10 classes and producing nationally ranked teams, the gamble is magnified times 10.
Which is why it's important to have a thorough and comprehensive search for the successor.
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