re: 2011 1 Loss LSU vs 2 undefeated BCS teams

Yeah their really are to many things to play in the scenario.....such as what we proved last year...the human polls were keeping us down so how you win obviously has some points on you.

I could see where a 1 loss LSU team could be in the NC if that team had narrowly lost to an undefeated Oregon and would be facing them again in the NC.

How about we just go undefeated and cut all the crap....

The nation is going to be sick of SEC teams getting a spot in the title game. If the cheaters would have lost a game they would not have gone. TCU would.

We'll have to go back to the days of '03 and '07 where everyone else loses a game (or two).

OR, LSU can start doing the undefeated thing ourselves.

That's what I was thinking. I feel that there may be a thought here and there that voting LSU into the NC game would be again giving them an advantage, maybe tainting the game. Don't agree, but I'd be willing to bet that there would be more than one voter who would have that thought cross their mind.

Here is the problem. If you get a degree from Harvard or Yale, is it fair to say that is same degree as a degree say from South Florida. Well, yes and no.

Its the same degree in words. I dont think many would argue that obtaining the degree from Yale or Harvard was probly much more difficult. Now you can do the same work with similar degrees, but that degree from Harvard or Yale will do much more for you, because ppl understand that the level of difficulty is much much more at an Ivy League School. Is a B at Harvard the same as a A at South Florida. Id say yes.

IMO, Undefeated in a lesser division is the same as one loss in the SEC, its the same degree. But who would argue that going undefeated in the Big East/WAC is harder than only losing one in the SEC. Its a No brainer, the SEC is much much harder to navigate and even coming away with one loss is a difficult feat.

Such is not the current BCS system. Having a one loss season in the SEC in this system is NOT the same as having an undefeated season in a lesser division. Therefore, undefeated seasons will always weigh more than a one loss season in this BCS system.

We all believe that the Harvard or Yale graduate could graduate with ease from South Florida, yet he takes the harder road for the same degree.

Example this year when we had the 1 loss it was predicted that we could possibly jump tcu since we were high in computer polls but in the voter polls due to the UNC 2nd half, Tenn game, time managment issues the human polls were killing us.......80% of experts were saying we were overrated because of this and it effected votes.

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Having a one loss season in the SEC in this system is NOT the same as having an undefeated season in a lesser division. Therefore, undefeated seasons will always weigh more than a one loss season in this BCS system.

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really? Explain 2007, LSU with 2 losses was in over unbeaten Hawaii. Several other 2 loss teams were ranked over Hawaii as well. How about 2008, when a 1 loss SEC team played a 1 loss Big 12 team while 2 unbeaten non AQ's were left out. You guys are wnating a blanket standard, but it doesn't exist. It all depends on what happens in the course of a season and is different from season to season. Just because TCU and Bosie were ranked high all this season doesn't mean any and all Non AQ's will get the same treatment from here on out. Those 2 were special cases. TCU was 11-2 in 08 (to OU and Utah), 12-1 in 09 (to bosie) and had 90% of their starters back in 2010. Boise lost 1 game in 08 (to TCU) was unbeaten in 09 and also had a ton of starters back. Those are unique cases. Bosie has their QB and a bunch of guys back so they will start 11 high, but TCU loses 18 or so starters, they won't be unbeaten again in 11.

It's just my opinion, but I believe that in 2011, two BCS unbeatens would get the votes over any 1 loss SEC school. I also believe that TCU and Boise St. have proven themselves over the past few years to the voters and if one of them goes undefeated, and there is only one unbeaten BCS, those two schools would be voted 1 & 2.

The argument about the computers is valid. So even if I think the voters would put the unbeatens ahead of a one loss team, the computers might not see it that way.